[nathanbedford]

In Bavaria the farmers all around me are logging around the calendar, in fact, they are required to manage their woodlands. The result, the forests have endured here while supporting mankind since before the Visigoths came through.

My point, even where people are green to the point of absurdity as they are here in Germany, sensible regulations are possible. When whole industries in whole sections of the nation are handcuffed because of a few birds or a few snakes, we are confounded by our own fastidiousness.

Our culture has been conditioned ever since Walt Disney's Bambi to exalt this green fantasy over intelligent management of resources. Our law has so perverted procedure that the outcome is inevitable. When the court grants standing to green groups to bring "friendly" lawsuits against the EPA only to result in sweetheart settlements in favor of green fantasy, legalistic tyranny triumphs over democracy.

[Cincinatus' Wife]

Our children and grandchildren were and continue to be taught that natural resources are part of Mother Earth and holy. They're opposed to using things like wood, coal, oil, gas - that it is bad to fish, log, mine.

They don't understand conservation - they're indoctrinated by academics preaching "the environment" and "the holiness of being green." Then it's reinforced by uninformed teachers, lazy politicians and a biased, ignorant media - now business has climbed aboard to profit from the ignorant public!

I remember when Scouting was more than promoting homosexuality, feminism and selling cookies.

More people afraid of outdoors, disconnect with nature blamed

[WorkingClassFilth]

America’s problem isn’t so much forests or management (well, pre-1990’s management). We have more forested acreage than when Columbus set foot here. We also grow more biomass than we cut. The new ‘natural’ management systems are designed to kill forest resource use. There are many management issues out there today, but the forestry school are churning out PC idiots just like every other school. Of course, it’s alright to import forest products from overseas or allow foreign groups like this one from Oman.

Who the hell cares anymore?

[theBuckwheat]

The “green fantasy” goes to the heart of the human spirit, for it temps mankind in way similar to the way Satan tempted Eve: that salvation is possible by achieving harmony with “nature”, which in reality is a false god commonly called Gaia.