Poroshenko blasts MPs as ‘fifth column’ after E. Ukraine 'terrorist' bill fails

RUSSIA TODAY ^ | August 2, 2014

[McGruff]

Ukraine’s president, Petro Poroshenko, has blasted the country’s parliament as a “fifth column which cannot recognize the Lugansk and Donetsk People’s Republics as terrorist groups.” The country is in need of snap parliamentary elections, he added.

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“I don’t know how to work with the parliament where half of the Verkhovna Rada [parliament] does not vote to recognize the Lugansk People’s Republic and Donetsk People’s Republic as terrorist organizations,” said Poroshenko, Ukraine’s local media reported.

“I don’t know how to work with the parliament where the majority of people represent a ‘fifth column’ which is controlled from abroad, whole factions. And the danger of this is only rising,” he added.

Poroshenko’s reference to a “fifth column” is a strong term in the current situation, as it originates from the Spanish Civil War, where Franco’s fascists literally sent a “fifth column” of spies and provocateurs to try to capture Madrid from inside the city. Nowadays, the term has come to be used more widely, to refer to any group of people who undermine a larger group —such as a nation or a besieged city — from within.

On July 22, the Ukrainian parliament voted to recognize the crash of Malaysia Airlines MH17 plane near the eastern city of Donetsk as a terrorist attack, and called on the world to include the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic, which controls the area, and the Lugansk People’s Republic, on their list of terrorist organizations. However, such a definition apparently failed to materialize in Ukraine.

On top of the humanitarian crisis in the east, Ukraine has suddenly been plunged into political turmoil. The country is facing snap elections after the ruling coalition was dissolved July 24.

Poroshenko told the media he would work to hold the elections earlier, “whatever the law” and “whatever the circumstances.” One of his main targets is the Communist Party, which was outlawed at the same time as the coalition collapsed.

The Communists had been vocal critics of many of Kiev’s current policies, including the military crackdown on dissenting eastern regions, the failure to investigate mass killings in Odessa and Kiev, and painful austerity measures required for Ukraine to receive Western loans.

“I am proud that during my presidency the Communist faction ceased to exist,” Poroshenko declared Friday night, adding that after the elections the party will be democratically erased from “Ukraine’s political map.”

Experts see the shrinking political field in Kiev as an attempt to purge elites and basically shape a convenient parliament. “When President Viktor Yanukovich was overthrown on February 21, the parliament voted back new powers in terms of going back to the 2004 constitution,” John Laughland from the Institute of Democracy and Cooperation in Paris, told RT. “Now the new president, Poroshenko, discovers that this new constitution doesn’t suit him, he needs to purge the parliament, he needs to stigmatize people who don’t agree with his policies as fifth columnists.”

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[Rashputin]

IMHO (eveyone has one), sooner or later, Germany, Russia, and several different groups from within Ukraine are going to sit down and reach an agreement on how Ukraine needs to modify it's Constitution and reorder it's government.

The presence of any of the following, Poland, Hungary, Belarus, and Moldova, (depending on which parts of West and North Ukraine go to the streets first), will be a fairly good indication of whether or not changing current borders (Crimea part of Russia with Transnistria on the block in return) will be considered.

Think Metternich and a return to Europe behaving like Europe with three or more power blocks instead of the EU as the be all and end all of European unity.

[Ivan Mazepa]

2012 parliamentary elections were a sham, the sooner new elections come, the better, with all those communists (until recently) and Region in there.

But they don’t want to dissolve the government in a middle of a war, catch 22.

[Ivan Mazepa]

Keep reading those Russian fairy tales.

Same bulls**t artists promised communism by 1980, that Chernobyl was a fake, so was Katyn and Holodomor.

[tcrlaf]

So, exactly what in this post was a “Russian Fairy tale”?
Details. please.

[Ivan Mazepa]

Small protests by the soldiers wives in western Ukraine says little about Ukrainian resolve to drive every one of those Russians back to Putin. Russians, like this little fagg*t, from StPetersburg posing over dead Ukrainian soldiers.

Regarding "thousands strong protests of Hungarians" - you know Russians are counting if 100,000+ Ukrainians are on Maidan, they see 1,000 but when it's someone else protesting in Ukraine, tens and hundreds become thousands. Please let me see your source.

As for my original comment regarding fairy tales, I understand you're desperate to cling to some kind of hope, to magnify any weakness on the Ukrainian side while Russian terrorists are being choked, please, try to keep some sort of perspective.

[Ivan Mazepa]

Any thoughts about Putin fighting the federalization movements in Siberia and Kaliningrad, but pushing so hard for it in Ukraine?

[tcrlaf]

I’ll research it, and get back to you.

Also a question:

What is happening along the Transnistria border, (firing reported)

and

What is happening with the anti-conscription protests in TransCarpathia. Several tweets tonight about something “big” happening there.

[wetphoenix]

~What is happening with the anti-conscription protests in TransCarpathia. Several tweets tonight about something “big” happening there.~

Poroshenko would go all-Stalin on these protests, killing people if necessary.

It would be a good killing as far as he is on a side of “good”, not “evil” like his predecessor Yanukovich who couldn’t even dream to use military against his people on such a scale.

Anyway, everyone who opposing Poroshenko on something is a “fifth column” from now.

Obamao must be taking notes.

[Ivan Mazepa]

Haven't heard anything significant along Transnistria border, it's being crossed to smuggle weapons into Ukraine, and it's proximity to Odesa is always a concern. They made a showing of digging a big ditch, but it likely won't be as effective as manning the border.

So again, can't overreact to every single bit of information. Ukraine is to continue doing what it has been doing with regard to the military conflict with Russia.