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Poroshenko blasts MPs as ‘fifth column’ after E. Ukraine 'terrorist' bill fails
RUSSIA TODAY ^ | August 2, 2014

Posted on 08/02/2014 10:26:50 AM PDT by McGruff

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21 posted on 08/02/2014 1:11:13 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: tcrlaf
IMHO (eveyone has one), sooner or later, Germany, Russia, and several different groups from within Ukraine are going to sit down and reach an agreement on how Ukraine needs to modify it's Constitution and reorder it's government.

The presence of any of the following, Poland, Hungary, Belarus, and Moldova, (depending on which parts of West and North Ukraine go to the streets first), will be a fairly good indication of whether or not changing current borders (Crimea part of Russia with Transnistria on the block in return) will be considered.

Think Metternich and a return to Europe behaving like Europe with three or more power blocks instead of the EU as the be all and end all of European unity.

22 posted on 08/02/2014 1:27:59 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: McGruff

2012 parliamentary elections were a sham, the sooner new elections come, the better, with all those communists (until recently) and Region in there.

But they don’t want to dissolve the government in a middle of a war, catch 22.


23 posted on 08/02/2014 2:19:09 PM PDT by Ivan Mazepa
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To: tcrlaf

Keep reading those Russian fairy tales.

Same bulls**t artists promised communism by 1980, that Chernobyl was a fake, so was Katyn and Holodomor.


24 posted on 08/02/2014 2:36:12 PM PDT by Ivan Mazepa
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To: Ivan Mazepa

So, exactly what in this post was a “Russian Fairy tale”?
Details. please.


25 posted on 08/02/2014 3:31:06 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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Small protests by the soldiers wives in western Ukraine says little about Ukrainian resolve to drive every one of those Russians back to Putin. Russians, like this little fagg*t, from StPetersburg posing over dead Ukrainian soldiers.

Regarding "thousands strong protests of Hungarians" - you know Russians are counting if 100,000+ Ukrainians are on Maidan, they see 1,000 but when it's someone else protesting in Ukraine, tens and hundreds become thousands. Please let me see your source.

As for my original comment regarding fairy tales, I understand you're desperate to cling to some kind of hope, to magnify any weakness on the Ukrainian side while Russian terrorists are being choked, please, try to keep some sort of perspective.

26 posted on 08/02/2014 7:49:24 PM PDT by Ivan Mazepa
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Any thoughts about Putin fighting the federalization movements in Siberia and Kaliningrad, but pushing so hard for it in Ukraine?


27 posted on 08/02/2014 7:54:58 PM PDT by Ivan Mazepa
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To: Ivan Mazepa

I’ll research it, and get back to you.

Also a question:

What is happening along the Transnistria border, (firing reported)

and

What is happening with the anti-conscription protests in TransCarpathia. Several tweets tonight about something “big” happening there.


28 posted on 08/02/2014 8:04:42 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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~What is happening with the anti-conscription protests in TransCarpathia. Several tweets tonight about something “big” happening there.~

Poroshenko would go all-Stalin on these protests, killing people if necessary.

It would be a good killing as far as he is on a side of “good”, not “evil” like his predecessor Yanukovich who couldn’t even dream to use military against his people on such a scale.

Anyway, everyone who opposing Poroshenko on something is a “fifth column” from now.

Obamao must be taking notes.


29 posted on 08/02/2014 10:36:27 PM PDT by wetphoenix
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Haven't heard anything significant along Transnistria border, it's being crossed to smuggle weapons into Ukraine, and it's proximity to Odesa is always a concern. They made a showing of digging a big ditch, but it likely won't be as effective as manning the border.

So again, can't overreact to every single bit of information. Ukraine is to continue doing what it has been doing with regard to the military conflict with Russia.


30 posted on 08/03/2014 11:44:43 AM PDT by Ivan Mazepa
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