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Posted on 07/29/2014 6:59:33 AM PDT by aardwolf46
Something I noticed on youtube and was about a month old when MH17 was shot down, this account seems to be severely at odds with much of what we see in the MSM....
This makes several claims I've seen of Ukrainian fighter-bombers hiding behind airliners and then peeling off to bomb separatist targets. The basic bottom line wrt MH17 seems to be that Ukrainian air traffic controllers routed it into a war zone and ordered it to drop altitude, i.e. set it up like a skeet target. The question of who actually shot it down seems fairly irrelevant.
Here's some more reading material. 10 more questions Russian military pose to Ukraine, US over MH17 crash
Great post. Direct information from citizens that live there needs to get out to the world.
The attacks will continue until the links to globalism become very well-publicized.
Then globalism will back off and hide and try other ways to get the citizens of that area to give in to globalism and join the EU.
there...I fixed it for you comrade McGruff
If these claims are believable and if I had to bet it I’d bet that they were, then the Ukrainians are basically doing the same sort of thing which Hamas does only worse. I haven’t seen any reports of Hamas terrorists walking straight up to attack IDF soldiers with kids in front of them...
Let me ask you a question. Do you believe TWA800 was downed by a center fuel tank explosion? I don’t.
Those Ukrainian citizens should take heart.
And they must get their real stories like this one out on the internet or spread information other ways.
We blew the lid off the new world order (globalist) operations in Libya and Syria, we can do the same regarding their operation in Ukraine.
Many, many Americans are learning that this Ukraine operation is a globalist operation, they should post as much as they can here on FR and other websites factual information as they find it.
I’ve posted numerous times over the past year about the big-money globalism that has been working towards “assimilating” Ukraine since 1991.
Ukrainians should be aware that American small business is generally very, very good, but American big business is globlism. Globalism also includes UK and Europe big business, as well as quasi-international organizations like the World Bank and IMF. They should run from these organizations and businesses like the plague and push them out of their country entirely. They should instead invest in themselves - be their own financing. If they want business advice, get it directly from American small business - not Wall Street.
I’m wondering if the shirtless photos of Putin have gotten the best of some of our fallen members here on FreeRepublic?
Must the the latest Soviet spin..
Did I say Soviet? I meant Russian
So I guess you missed this from that place and that day:
About three hours later, at 4:18 p.m.... the Buk’s crew snapped to attention when a spotter called in a report of an incoming airplane.
“A bird is flying to you,” the spotter tells the rebel.
The man identified as Bezler responds: “Reconnaissance plane or a big one?”
“I can’t see behind the clouds. Too high,” the spotter replies.
The rebel official who spoke to the AP about the incident said that Bezler commanded another fighter, code-named Sapper, who was the ranking rebel officer with the missile launcher at the time.
At 4:40 p.m., in another intercepted call released by Ukraine, the man identified as Bezler tells his own superior that the unit had shot down a plane.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3185603/posts
Would the words “I can’t see behind the clouds — TOO HIGH” indicate a lower flying military plane or higher flying commercial one???
If there was a lower flying military one wouldn’t they have seen it and targeted it???
What is alarmingly clear is that the western media have dropped all pretense of impartiality as it regards events in Ukraine and are active participants in the US government’s propaganda campaign against Russia.
Getting shifty on the subject now eh? I can tell by your response/question that it would be a waste of my time to try to engage you and other Putin-lovers in a thoughtful debate.
Since you guys are 'dead-enders' on this subject, I'd rather have fun mocking your positions.
What if Texas decided it had had enough of Obama's America and declared itself to be a separate Republic. Would you support the US bombing it back into submission? I ask because that's essentially going on in Ukraine.
...sigh...when will there be a Ron Paul robot purge on this forum?
Welcome to FreeRepublic -- something probably foreign to you.
Will you be staying long???
BTW say "Hello" for me to McGruff in the cubicle behind you.
Russian propaganda alert.
Simon Ostrovsky, the pro-UK VICE News reporter that was held by the Donetsk rebels two months ago, that created such a big media stink in the west, created a Twitter Storm last night, by saying he was sick and tired of the lies coming out of Kiev, about not shelling civilian areas, and the rebels shelling their own people just to make Kiev look bad.
HE said, “It’s a Civil War, both sides are shelling each other, and civilians.”
Do you think that the Russian invasion of their country is driving them toward that assimilation???
And that if that Russian invasion stops then that assimilation will also stop.
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