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US Military Dusts Off Decades-Old 'Readiness' Plans for Russia
Yahoo News/ABC ^ | 7-25-2014 | Lee Ferran

Posted on 07/25/2014 6:33:20 PM PDT by tcrlaf

As American officials fire off diplomatic salvos at Russia in response to that nation’s purported actual artillery salvos into Ukraine, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff said recently that among other actions, the U.S. military is dusting off decades-old plans, just in case.

“We’re looking inside our own readiness models to look at things that we haven’t had to look at for 20 years, frankly, about basing and lines of communication and sea lanes,” Gen. Martin Dempsey, America’s top military officer, said at the Aspen Security Forum Thursday evening. “What the military does when faced with these crises is – our job is preparedness, deterrence and readiness.”

In addition to its own plans, Dempsey said the U.S. military is having “conversations with our NATO allies about increasing their capability and readiness” and that there’s a “very active” ongoing process and debate about how best to provide support to Ukraine.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: coldwar; comradeobama; flexibility; kgbputin; reset; russia
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To: Cold Heat

My gosh, you really don’t care about the subject or context.

Are you so angry and bitter that you are just going to keep posting unrelated nonsense?

Do you care or realize that 1953 and when the 155 howitzer was introduced, has not come up here or have any relevance to anything?


141 posted on 07/26/2014 2:19:27 AM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: hoagy62
Yeah, lol...I only heard that some event happened.. During my tour, we had some interesting exchanges as well. There were some exchanged rifle fire...across the border with east Germany from time to time, and yes the Rooskies were sensitive to movements. The place was crawling with agents. I am pretty sure they telegraphed our convoy movements just to avoid misunderstandings. I was even approached at one time. I reported it..they put the place off limits...lol I think we are still crawling with agents. Some of them may be posting here on this Ukraine business. Anyway it sure seems so. The US has been a haven for foreign agents since WWII. In fact the Russians stole all the plans for out first nuke. They built their own and tested it. but they did not have any bomber big enough and with the range to deliver it.

So they stole the plans for our B-29 and that was their first intercontinental bomber.

142 posted on 07/26/2014 2:29:37 AM PDT by Cold Heat (Have you reached your breaking point yet? If not now....then when?)
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To: ansel12

Maybe you should realize that when you are in a hole you should quit digging.


143 posted on 07/26/2014 2:31:33 AM PDT by Cold Heat (Have you reached your breaking point yet? If not now....then when?)
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To: ansel12
Ansel Do you care or realize that 1953 and when the 155 howitzer was introduced, has not come up here or have any relevance to anything?

ansel It was the Field artillery aspect that impressed me about the clearance, to me 155 was so different than fancy missiles and such. Pershings we get, but learning there were nukes for 155 freaks out people.

I was responding to your words ansel.

But Like I said, you bounce around a lot..Just trying to keep up with you.

144 posted on 07/26/2014 2:40:07 AM PDT by Cold Heat (Have you reached your breaking point yet? If not now....then when?)
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To: Cold Heat

Gosh, you are a liar.

When did 1953 come up? Or when the 155 was introduced?


145 posted on 07/26/2014 2:45:12 AM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: Cold Heat

Actually, they didn’t steal the plans for the B-29. I read about this story. A B-29 was flying over their territory on a mission and had to make an emergency landing. The crew was treated well and released. They kept the bomber (despite our requests to give it back) and reverse-engineered it. That’s why the first Soviet nuclear-capable bomber is a carbon-coy of the B-29.

Gunfire exchanged over the border? Really? I think the Germans (certainly on the West side) would’ve frowned on that most assiduously.


146 posted on 07/26/2014 2:46:56 AM PDT by hoagy62 ("Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered..."-Thomas Paine. 1776)
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To: hoagy62

coy = copy

I’m tired...going to bed.


147 posted on 07/26/2014 2:47:54 AM PDT by hoagy62 ("Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered..."-Thomas Paine. 1776)
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To: ansel12
You brought up the 155...You also said you were surprised to find out that a nuke device could be fired out of a artillery piece.

I responded with some accurate information for you about the use of artillery and a nuclear payload.

I thought that you being a artillery expert might certainly know that and would chastise me for telling you something you already knew.

But you did not do that. What you did was accuse me of drifting off topic like the grammar and spelling police. you have also accused me of writing melodrama.

I'm just trying to figure you out.

148 posted on 07/26/2014 2:51:06 AM PDT by Cold Heat (Have you reached your breaking point yet? If not now....then when?)
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To: hoagy62

They were not Germans...on the east side..

Most of them belonged to a armored Tank battalion in the sector I was in.


149 posted on 07/26/2014 2:52:51 AM PDT by Cold Heat (Have you reached your breaking point yet? If not now....then when?)
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To: Cold Heat

No, that is all in your head.


150 posted on 07/26/2014 2:58:01 AM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: hoagy62

Hoagy I don’t have it at my fingertips...Given time I can go back into some documentaries on WWII and in it will be the agents names and other involved people. they had a extensive spy ring.

I just remember the generalities of it. the specifics I can find, if you are interested.


151 posted on 07/26/2014 3:00:33 AM PDT by Cold Heat (Have you reached your breaking point yet? If not now....then when?)
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To: Cold Heat

BTW, The plans were taken from a Boeing plant.


152 posted on 07/26/2014 3:01:46 AM PDT by Cold Heat (Have you reached your breaking point yet? If not now....then when?)
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To: ansel12

No ansel, apparently I am in your head.


153 posted on 07/26/2014 3:02:37 AM PDT by Cold Heat (Have you reached your breaking point yet? If not now....then when?)
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To: hoagy62
OK......Here is the story about the planes, there were three of them, but the US was convinced and rightfully so that the Russians would not be able to reverse engineer the complicated craft and they actually were right.

Russian needed the plans.

trying to recall all of this from my memory, but they had to burn one of their best spy's who happened to work at the Boeing plant in Kansas, I believe.

He got into the filing cabinets, and took them. it was a huge pile of blueprints that he managed to get out of the plant and into his car. They made their way to the fatherland with the agent.

This did not solve all of Russia's issues build the plane, but most of them. The remaining issues were related to the machinery needed to make the parts.

http://www.b-29s-over-korea.com/shortstories/russianclone.htm

154 posted on 07/26/2014 3:15:50 AM PDT by Cold Heat (Have you reached your breaking point yet? If not now....then when?)
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To: hoagy62

OK...I have it for you.

It was in 1945.

The agent in charge or handler was Mikail Gorshkov.

He recruited a Italian who’s brother worked for Boeing at a B-29 assembly line in Brazil.

The brother took the plans and gave them to the agent who brought them to Gorshkov. The newly built TU4 became a reality shortly thereafter just before the Russian bomb was tested (which was also a copy of ours.)

Gorshkov was still alive and interviewed for this documentary, made in the 1990s.

I have it on VCR tapes but you can still find the documentary and I believe HULU has it. It is called “The secrets of War”. it is narrated by Charlton Heston and has this information and a great deal more as it was compiled shortly after the wall came down and the Russian files were opened up to a great degree regarding WWII.

I think you might find it interesting.

There are some 64 hours of tape, and this info comes from episode 33. “titled....”The hunt for atomic Secrets”


155 posted on 07/26/2014 4:07:16 AM PDT by Cold Heat (Have you reached your breaking point yet? If not now....then when?)
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To: Cold Heat

“The reality is that the cold war never ended. It is really still in play, just cooler. It is now warming back up. Might as well get used to it. Otherwise you might go crazy...”

This is pure theater; how do we have a communist president now while they have a capitalist?


156 posted on 07/26/2014 6:07:32 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Cold Heat

Under Kruschev we fought the proxy wars in Korea and Vietnam (at least the beginning); with Putin we’ve had no such wars.


157 posted on 07/26/2014 6:09:15 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: kearnyirish2

That’s what you do in a Cold war.

And yes, it is interesting about the commie/capitalist.

They discovered through years of trial and error that they can’t run a business and grow it in a competitive environment. It just does not work, for obvious reasons.

So that is why the Red Chinese have imposed their version of capitalism. But don’t invest there. they still hate westerners and will steal you money while the government looks on and does nothing.


158 posted on 07/26/2014 6:20:01 AM PDT by Cold Heat (Have you reached your breaking point yet? If not now....then when?)
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To: kearnyirish2
We also supported the Shaw in Iran, for a time supported Saddam Hussein in his war against Russian backed Iran and them invaded Russian backed Iraq twice, not to mention various and sundry African conflicts..all Russian backed and that I suspect will once again continue.
159 posted on 07/26/2014 6:23:33 AM PDT by Cold Heat (Have you reached your breaking point yet? If not now....then when?)
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To: Cold Heat

You’re making my point about how different it is, not the same. We executed Saddam Hussein. Even the fake Cold War with Red China is carried on in our media while we buy so much from them - we MADE them, and continue to build them up buying their cheap lead-painted trinkets.


160 posted on 07/26/2014 6:27:46 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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