“Are they looking for handouts or suckering the Russians.”
Kiev is broke,
the coup government coalition fell today,
they are broke, having spent all of the US grant money and the IMF tranche,
They don’t have enough gas to get through the winter, even a mild one.
They are taking heavy losses in the field, even if they aren’t acknowledging them, forcing yet a third round of forced conscription, and “marshal law lite” as of today.
They desperately need foreign intervention, even more so than the rebels do.
LOL ! So now, mongo, please tell what are your assessment of the pro-russian fraction's results during the next elections ?
The government did not fall. It is their tactical decision to have early elections. Pro Ukrainian forces will get a strong majority now as Russia has shown their true colors and can’t fool people as they did in 2012 elections.
Maybe Kiev should do what the Russian rebels are doing to finance their insurgency campaign — shoot down commercial airliners and then loot the victims.
Here for those who might want to deny it:
The order, Number 432, says that jewellery, watches and other valuables taken from bodies must be handed in to the ‘defence fund’ of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic by 8pm on Wednesday 23 July taken to Strelkov’s headquarters so they can be used to fund the insurgency campaign he is conducting.
‘To all detachments of Donetsk People’s Republic army, to soldiers and commanders who from 18 to 21 July 2014 in the area where the Boeing 777 of Malaysian airlines crashed and who possess personal belongings related to this airplane.
‘Before 8 pm on 23 July 2014 you must give these things away to the headquarters of DPR army. Valuable items (watches, earrings, lockets and other jewellery) must be sent to the DPR Defence Fund.’
It is signed by Russian rebel army commander Colonel Igor Strelkov, and carries what appears to be an official stamp....
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3184092/posts
I wonder how that fundraising campaign went —
I have no idea whether Kiev is broke or not. I do know in some cases private money is being used to directly equip some members of the military. There was never a coup. The former president abandoned the office when it became apparent the extent of his theft would become known. The prime minister’s resignation is no surprise in a parliamentary government. That it taking place in an orderly fashion as expected following the national elections that brought Pereshenko to power. the surprise is it did not happen sooner.
The Ukrainians have been up front about their losses especially since a number of their aircraft have been shot down with Russian supplied weapons.
From what I’m hearing and reading locally, the call up is dependent on individual circumstances. It appears orderly and is not a willy nilly conscription.
No one I’m in communications with either in person or via internet posts have mentioned any type of martial law unless the Russian mercenaries have imposed it in their limited area of occupation.