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To: Tailgunner Joe

Where is your evidence that he did that?

How easily you forget Victoria Nuland’s involvement
That is willful and purposeful, right?

http://www.bing.com/search?q=nuland+maidan+involvement&form=IE10TR&src=IE10TR&pc=MAGWJS


79 posted on 07/23/2014 10:27:30 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf
No, you keep saying they supported “the most violent elements” of the maidan. That's not true. Where is the evidence that they supported Right Sector, or any other violent elements?

Nuland’s leaked conversation shows that she supported Yatseniuk, not Svoboda, not Right Sector. So your claim is a lie.

You want to smear Ukraine with a false charge that Obama was behind the uprising that overthrew Yanukovich. Thay’s not true. Obama had nothing to do with it. Obama’s state department meddled only in the creation of the government which came about as a result of the protests. Obama did not instigate the protests and now he refuses to arm Ukraine against the Russian terrorists.

83 posted on 07/23/2014 10:42:13 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: tcrlaf

Whatever Nulands involvement, the accusations came from Russia. It was phone intercept they used as propaganda.

The US position has always been to prop up the side that is anti-Russian. That is not going to change and it should not surprise anyone at all...

The stuff about the Neo Nazis was also blown up far beyond it’s importance is a effort by pro-Russian media and others who ran with the story. It just counter intel propaganda endlessly repeated until it is believed to be true.

It’s not a cost issue either. this is chump change and rhetoric on our part.

The removal of the Russian sock puppet was going to happen with or without us, but I can assume we did some intervention to make sure he was not executed or accidently killed.

Again, attacking the US position simply because a incompetent boob is sitting in the White House when he’s not fundraising or golfing, is not a very valid reason to attack the US policy which is long standing before Bozo and post Bozo.


86 posted on 07/23/2014 10:48:30 PM PDT by Cold Heat (Have you reached your breaking point yet? If not now....then when?)
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To: tcrlaf
Just linking bing search is not going to cut it. You did that because you don't have a single good source to back up your claim. If you had one good source you wouldn't need to link a bunch of bad ones. Half the sources turned up by that search are Russky sites like rt.com, voice of russia, etc. The rest are nutcase tinfoil conspiracy sites like infowars.com and Lyndon LaRouche. In fact that's probably a pretty good cross-section of where you get your ideas.
87 posted on 07/23/2014 10:51:31 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: tcrlaf
According to Nuland’s testimony before the House foreign affairs committee the USA only provided funds for the new election after Yanukovich had already fled to Russia.

So again, where is the evidence that the USA supported violent elements of the maidan?

You won't present any evidence because there is none. It's a lie you made up.

90 posted on 07/23/2014 11:02:37 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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