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Cockpit of MH17 found 'sawn in half at spot cordoned off by pro-Russian separatists ...
The Daily Mail Online ^ | July 22, 2014 | Tara Brady

Posted on 07/22/2014 2:52:40 PM PDT by Uncle Chip

International monitors, who only recently gained access to the site, discovered the cockpit of the plane apparently cut in half with diesel-powered saws.

Michael Bociurkiw, spokesman for the group of international monitors from the Organize for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE), told USA Today:

'The rear part of the aircraft, one of the biggest intact pieces, has definitely been hacked into'.

The cockpit was found on land which was immediately cordoned off by Russian-backed separatists during the two days after the plane was blown out of the sky.

However, both the separatists and Russia have denied any involvement in shooting down the plane.

Yesterday, President Barack Obama called for Russia to stop the separatist from moving parts of the aircraft so the area can be properly investigated.

'The separatists are removing evidence from the crash site,' he said. 'All of which begs the question: What are they trying to hide?'

An Australian air force plane and refrigerated trucks have now arrived in Holland to wait for the MH17 victims but it is now feared only 200 bodies have been recovered.

The Organisation for Security and Cooperation in Europe also says there are still human remains lying on the crash site.

Jain Tuinder, a Dutch official leading the investigation, said just 200 bodies had arrived in Kharkiv today adding:

'We will not leave until every remain has left this country so we will have to go on and bargain again with the people over there.’

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: mh17; netherlands; russia
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To: mac_truck
It was presented by the Russian Defense Ministry at their briefing on July 21st.

Was that before or after they hacked into Wikipedia and tried to change the altitude capabilities of that plane???

61 posted on 07/22/2014 4:49:41 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: babygene

His surrogates in Donetsk do — the reports of atleast 38 whisked away from the crime scene to a Donetsk morgue have been well documented and all over the net.


62 posted on 07/22/2014 4:52:00 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

“His surrogates in Donetsk do — the reports of atleast 38 whisked away from the crime scene to a Donetsk morgue have been well documented and all over the net.”

For what reason? We already know they are dead. That doesn’t make any sense...

Some very well may not be “bodies”. They could just be a bunch of body parts.


63 posted on 07/22/2014 4:56:40 PM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: Uncle Chip

The Russian Defense Ministry briefing was before the US intelligence community started back pedaling on their ‘assessment’ and after the State Dept. knob polishers jumped the shark.

-btw how does someone hack into an open source application?


64 posted on 07/22/2014 5:00:35 PM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: babygene

Then why are the thugs of Donetsk holding onto 82 bodies???


65 posted on 07/22/2014 5:04:35 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: mac_truck
The Russian Defense Ministry briefing was before the US intelligence community started back pedaling on their ‘assessment’ and after the State Dept. knob polishers jumped the shark.

And just before the Putinistas decided to hold onto 82 bodies as collateral to assure the statement.

66 posted on 07/22/2014 5:07:40 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

“Then why are the thugs of Donetsk holding onto 82 bodies???”

That’s a good question for you to try to answer... Why would they? Don’t feel bad, there probably isn’t an answer.


67 posted on 07/22/2014 6:15:08 PM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: babygene

Sure there is: extortion


68 posted on 07/22/2014 6:20:51 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

“Sure there is: extortion”

There has been no suggestion of that... What could they possibly get? A thousand dollars? Just more crazy talk.


69 posted on 07/22/2014 7:17:03 PM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: babygene
Did you even bother to read the article above much less the last line from the Dutch official:

"We will not leave until every remain has left this country so we will have to go on and bargain again with the people over there."

Read it and weep --

70 posted on 07/22/2014 7:26:17 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip
Then why are the thugs of Donetsk holding onto 82 bodies???

One of the on the scene reporters said that there had to be some people incinerated at the scene of the crash due to the fireball. Others may not be found for awhile due to where they may have fell. Let's not make this a conspiracy.

71 posted on 07/22/2014 7:56:49 PM PDT by McGruff (If you tell a lie often enough the weak minded will accept it to be truth.)
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To: McGruff

Baloney —

They told the Dutch that there were 282 bodies — that’s a far cry from 200 that they delivered.

What’s a matter — can’t they count??? They must be using Common Core Math.

3 days ago the Ukrainian emergency workers bagged 200 bodies and put them in the trains, during which time the thugs of Donetsk admitted to having 38 others at a morgue in Donetsk.

Do your math — 200 + 38 = 238. And there were more found in the meantime.

There should have been atleast 238 unless the thugs of Donetsk are holding onto some for extortion or necrophiliac purposes, and sending others to the crematorium.


72 posted on 07/22/2014 8:14:46 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: ansel12
NATO is not the problem here, Russia is.

Yes, it's a big part of the problem. Buchanan, Kissinger, Ron Paul , others and Putin have said so.

Please think before you post.

73 posted on 07/22/2014 8:42:37 PM PDT by duckln
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To: duckln

LOL, I hope that was a joke.


74 posted on 07/22/2014 8:49:07 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: Mat_Helm
~Russia trucking off the 777 parts with missile impact and penetration contact marks. The bodies with SA-11 warhead shrapnel will never be found or recovered. Of course the airline will have a seating manifest and the missing bodies will be the ones all sitting together in the locations the missile or missiles struck and the same locations missing pieces of the jet cut up by the Russians and taken away. Of course the pilots are missing as well since the cockpit was hit by shrapnel, but managed to come down in one piece after the SA-11 buzz-saw cut it off. Surprised the Russians have not claimed the center fuel tank exploded. Worked for Bill Clinton in TWA 800.~ In fact SA-11 missile has no shrapnel inside. It has a continuous-rod warhead.
75 posted on 07/22/2014 10:06:20 PM PDT by wetphoenix
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To: wetphoenix
The continuous rod is the type of warhead construction and semi-spherical expansion pattern. It does in fact fragment and create a dense shrapnel field as it expands. After initial fuselage penetration passengers most certainly would have experienced wounding from warhead shrapnel.
76 posted on 07/23/2014 8:41:59 AM PDT by Mat_Helm
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