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To: DTA

o far, Americans shot down two airliners (Iran Air 655 and TWA 800),...

Why do you post garbage like this here?
It makes FR look like a bunch of kooks screaming about the smoking man on the grassy knoll and area51 aliens firing missiles into the pentagon and blowing up the trade center towers...

TWA crashed. Period.


39 posted on 07/22/2014 2:59:59 PM PDT by bill1952 (taxes don't hurt the rich, they keep YOU from becoming rich.)
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To: bill1952
>>>>>TWA crashed. Period<<<<

I thought it exploded due to tank vapor.

We can perhaps learn something from the previous cases of sudden flight arrest syndrome when military objectives and civilian airlines collide in the exact time and space grid.

Red line connecting events is human error, disinformation and/or political interference.

1. JAT Flight 364. In January 1972, DC-9 entered soon to be closed Czechoslovakian airspace due to military excercise. Pilot hoped to get out before ban is in effect. He was late and as a result, his plane was mistaken for a radar blip and shot down.

Aftermath: incident was hushed up on the highest level between Czechoslovakia and Yugoslavia. Yugoslavia blamed Croatian Nazis for planting the bomb aboard.

Characteristics: Human error (pilot's, SAM operators'), government cover up. Propaganda exploitation of the event.

2. KAL 007. The flight was held at Anchorage, to sync it's arrival time to Soviet airspace with the satellite flying overhead. When KAL007 entered CLOSED Soviet airspace over secret naval base where the secret testing was ongoing, KAL 007 flew with no signal lights and did not respond to the interceptor's commands. Pilot and ground control thought it was an American spy plane and shot it down.

Incident was recorded by the Japanese listening post at Hokkaido.

Aftermath: U.S. government tampered with the tape in order to implicate USSR. Nine minute tape was shortened to four. The truth came out later.

Characteristics: Deliberate action by KAL pilot, human error by Soviet pilot. Political interference, propaganda exploitation of the event.

3. Iran Air 655. Iranian airliner used F14 squawks and was shot down by Vincennes.

It was used for propaganda purposes by Iran. U.S. never admitted guilt but paid $60M damages.

Characteristics: human error (U.S.), deliberate intent (Iran), propaganda exploitation (Iran).

4. Sibir Air 1812 - shot down during military exercise in Ukraine on a flight path that was not closed for civilian traffic. Ukraine refused to admit firing SAM for several months.

Characteristics: human error. Government cover up. No propaganda exploitation.

So far, MH17 has the elements of KAL 007 (pilot veering off 10 miles from the flight path, spy satellite flying overhead, propaganda exploitation).

If it walks like a duck, if it talks like a duck probably it's a duck.

40 posted on 07/22/2014 3:33:00 PM PDT by DTA
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