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Putin lashes out at criticism over plane crash as more bodies found
FoxNews.com ^ | July 21, 2014 | FoxNews.Com

Posted on 07/21/2014 5:32:43 AM PDT by Biggirl

Russian President Vladimir Putin lashed out against a chorus of international condemnation Monday over Moscow's role in training and arming the rebels believed to have shot down a Malaysia Airlines passenger plane Thursday, killing all 298 on board.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: eunwo; kiev; mh17; msmblamerussia; putin; ukraine
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To: Krosan

If our own mismanagement would allow us to drill here, drill now, approve the Kestone pipeline, and ease the controls on exporting NatGas, Putin would be vastly diminished.

All without firing a shot, and at vast enhancement to the US economy.


21 posted on 07/21/2014 7:02:14 AM PDT by null and void (If Bill Clinton was the first black president, why isn't Barack Obama the first woman president?)
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To: Travis McGee

The US admitted that they shot it down immediately and they paid reparations.

Does anyone expect that from Putin???


22 posted on 07/21/2014 7:05:46 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Travis McGee; Biggirl

Just to throw this into the pot, when KAL 007 was shot down, and everyone’s eyes were on the USSR, Mexico shot down a small US civilian airplane claiming it was hauling drugs. No drugs were found in the crash site.

I read about it in an obscure newspaper, now out of business, at the time.


23 posted on 07/21/2014 7:12:56 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need more than seven rounds, Much more.)
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To: Biggirl

Man up, Vlad. This one’s on you.


24 posted on 07/21/2014 7:29:40 AM PDT by Romulus
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To: Uncle Chip

Obviously there were differences in immediate responses by the govts. My point is only to add the Iranian airbus to the repeated mentioning of KAL. We had our own accidental military/civilian shoot down. It’s an historical fact.


25 posted on 07/21/2014 7:35:53 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Biggirl

Where’s the chorus of international condemnation over all of King Obama’s aid to terrorists?


26 posted on 07/21/2014 7:36:13 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Parmenio; null and void

I’m on the side of historical accuracy over pure propaganda.


27 posted on 07/21/2014 7:36:50 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Uncle Chip

Time will tell.

My only point is to point out that KAL and MH-17 were NOT the only civilian passenger jets shot down by military missiles.

Reading these stories, it’s all too easy to overlook the Vincennes shoot down.


28 posted on 07/21/2014 7:38:28 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

During the case with Iranian plane the sailors thought they are in immediate danger and thus had to act quick. Russian trigger happy terrorists just shot down a plane they saw flying by at high altitude.


29 posted on 07/21/2014 7:41:32 AM PDT by Krosan
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To: Travis McGee

and that helps the investigation of this shootdown and the return of the bodies of the dead how???


30 posted on 07/21/2014 7:44:40 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

Historical context.


31 posted on 07/21/2014 8:03:44 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Parmenio

Willful historical blindness is counter productive to finding truth.


32 posted on 07/21/2014 8:04:25 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Krosan

Probably true. It’s still worthwhile to gain the historical context and perspective of noting all THREE shoot downs of large passenger jets by military missiles.


33 posted on 07/21/2014 8:05:36 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

I’m quite aware that the U.S. Navy shot down an Iranian airliner. How does that justify the shooting down of the Malaysian airliner?


34 posted on 07/21/2014 8:20:24 AM PDT by Parmenio
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To: Cvengr; All

What about the REAL coverup?
WHY was this plane on the course is was over a war zone where they knew planes were being shot down?
WHY did originally assigned flight crew opt OUT of fyling that flight -
WHY was it, additionally, reported to’ve been 300 miles off course - you can’t do that by ‘mistake’
WERE they a Judas Goat - set up for a hopeful shoot-down - a wag-the-dog incident?

copy/paste this in GOOGLE

crashed MH17 300 miles off course

oh he*l - for you natterers who are too lazy to do any research

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ukraine/10975524/Crashed-MH17-flight-was-300-miles-off-typical-course.html


35 posted on 07/21/2014 8:27:35 AM PDT by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits)
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To: maine-iac7

It seems you are too eager to find a conspiracy. Over 50 airliners flew over this area during the past 24 hours. Flying there (above 33,000 feet) was not something unordinary and allowed by Eurocontrol air traffic management.


36 posted on 07/21/2014 8:32:41 AM PDT by Krosan
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To: Biggirl
Putin says the plane would not have been shot down if Ukraine had not ended their unilateral cease-fire, but that is false, because the terrorists never agreed to or abided by the cease-fire in any way. They even shot down a helicopter the day after the cease-fire began.
37 posted on 07/21/2014 8:57:24 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Biggirl

America doesn’t have a dog in this fight with no Americans on board. That said, send the identified remains home to their families and worry about politics later.


38 posted on 07/21/2014 9:26:04 AM PDT by informavoracious (Open your eyes, people!)
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To: Biggirl

Well the mischief maker has now stepped in a pile of dog doo. He is going to be hard pressed to get himself out of this one. Those 40 or so oligarchs Putey works for are going to be royally PO’d at European sanctions.


39 posted on 07/21/2014 9:50:51 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: informavoracious

That was not what the rush was about. Bodies needed to be examined before they were tampered with. The seating arrangement in the plane is known so examining the shrapnel fragments in bodies and angles of entry wounds was important in obtaining the evidence.

Russians took the bodies and kept them under their control for extended time without anyone observing that the evidence is not tampered with or destroyed.


40 posted on 07/21/2014 9:51:32 AM PDT by Krosan
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