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To: Renfield

Come on comrade, Vladimir the great does no wrong. Those silly Americans are just trying to blame Mother Russia when they are the dogs, lying in bed with those evil Ukranians.....

Just ignore that a separatist took responsibility, then renegged when he realized it was a commercial plane. Ignore that the missle was shot from territory not held by the Ukranians. Ignore the pictures of the launcher inside of rebel controlled territory.

Blame everything but the folks that launched the rocket.

Somewhere Baghdad Bob is looking on applauding.


4 posted on 07/19/2014 6:32:09 AM PDT by NYRepublican72
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To: NYRepublican72
Just ignore that a separatist took responsibility, then renegged when he realized it was a commercial plane. Ignore that the missle was shot from territory not held by the Ukranians. Ignore the pictures of the launcher inside of rebel controlled territory.

We're instead supposed to believe an anonymous, unconfirmable source.

5 posted on 07/19/2014 6:33:32 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: NYRepublican72

That “separatist took responsibility” bit comes from a tweet that was reported in the western media to have come from a rebel leader, but in fact came from a web site that purports to support him. Be very careful about what you read in the mainstream media. We’re seeing a coordinated propaganda offensive here; at the very least our ruling elite is attempting to exploit this tragedy for its own gain.

Russia would have nothing to gain from such a ham-fisted move; and whatever you may think of his motives, Putin isn’t stupid enough to do sponsor such an act. At this point, the following possibilities strike me as most likely:

1) The shootdown was organized by U.S. intelligence (or some proxy) in order to embarrass Russia and turn international public opinion against Russia and its allies; or
2) Yulia Timoshenko, or persons allied to her, arranged the shootdown in order to embarrass the current Ukrainian president, with an eye to regaining the presidency.


11 posted on 07/19/2014 6:44:41 AM PDT by Renfield (Turning apples into venison since 1999!)
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