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Ukrainian millitary escorted B777 until 3 minutes before disappearing
Eturbonews ^ | 7-19-2014

Posted on 07/19/2014 6:21:55 AM PDT by Renfield

ETN received information from an air traffic controller in Kiev on Malaysia Airlines flight MH17.

This Kiev air traffic controller is a citizen of Spain and was working in the Ukraine. He was taken off duty as a civil air-traffic controller along with other foreigners immediately after a Malaysia Airlines passenger aircraft was shot down over the Eastern Ukraine killing 295 passengers and crew on board.

The air traffic controller suggested in a private evaluation and basing it on military sources in Kiev, that the Ukrainian military was behind this shoot down. Radar records were immediately confiscated after it became clear a passenger jet was shot down.

Military air traffic controllers in internal communication acknowledged the military was involved, and some military chatter said they did not know where the order to shoot down the plane originated from.

Obviously it happened after a series of errors, since the very same plane was escorted by two Ukrainian fighter jets until 3 minutes before it disappeared from radar.

Radar screen shots also show an unexplained change of course of the Malaysian Boeing. The change of course took the aircraft directly over the Eastern Ukraine conflict region.

Some tweets received suggest this may have been a secret military uprising against the current Ukrainian president under the direction of formerly-jailed Prime Minister Timoshenko.

According to other rumors, the black box for this crashed Malaysian Airlines flight was taken by Donetsk separatists. A spokesperson for the rebel group said this black box would be sent to the Interstate Aviation Committee headquartered in Moscow.

The First Deputy Prime Minister of the self-proclaimed People's Republic of Donetsk, Andrew Purgin, stated that the flight recorders of the crashed aircraft will be transferred to Moscow for examination.

Sources say the Rebel group leadership hopes this would confirm the Ukrainian military actually shot down this aircraft. This was reported by the news agency Interfax-Ukraine.

ETN statement: The information in this article is not independently confirmed and based on the statement of one airline controller and other tweets received.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: alexandervindman; burisma; collusion; ericciaramella; hoax; hunterbiden; mh17; putinsbuttboys; russia; ukraine
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To: justa-hairyape

They thought it was a military plane. IE - Accidental shooting. Unless you can provide some actual evidence other then articles from Time.


So Putin is free to shoot down Ukrainian aircraft? How about Latvian? Putin can manufacture a pretext anyplace there are Russians. Where does his killing end?

There is nothing accidental about Russia placing WMD SAM batteries in Ukraine and firing them. That they mistargeted and shot down the wrong plane is TOTALLY irrelevant.

Just admit you don’t have a problem with Putin killing Ukrainians to achieve political goals. Or Russian citizens. 20,000 civilians in Chechnya alone. Given that you probably haven’t noticed that no one died in Russian free Slovyansk this week. Meanwhile in Russian occupied Lugansk 40 people died yesterday. See the difference? No Russians, No deaths. Comprende?


81 posted on 07/19/2014 3:31:08 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: 1rudeboy
Actually it looks like the following chaff product.

Called Bundle chaff. It is composed of continuous strands and dispensed from a roll. The blades cut the chaff as it is dispensed. Lengths cut vary depending on frequency desired. But the stuff falling looks like long strands of this. And it is sold to Eastern European companies.

82 posted on 07/19/2014 4:02:21 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: lodi90
Where does his killing end?

Both sides have been killing. The US is now in a position of weakness thanks to progressive anti-military policies. There is not much we can do at present. And Europe cannot even contain its own Muslim population. If Putin really wants dead Europeans he will smuggle crates of AK-47's into European Mosques. So I would not recommend pushing his buttons until the west solves its problems.

83 posted on 07/19/2014 4:06:18 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: cynwoody
Given the rebels don't have an air force, what would be the point of giving the airliner a military escort?

To drop chaff if a missile was fired at the VIP civilian plane. Hopefully to divert the missile away from the civilian airplane that did not have chaff capabilities. We have a video that could be showing long strands of bundle chaff falling right after the crash. And the Ukranians had lost two planes in the past two days in that area.

A truck-mounted Buk battery has four missiles. Even if one of the escort fighters survives, he's not going to bother you unless he has a nuke.

Depends on if they ramped up their missile avoidance systems and what type of planes they sent for escort. A bundle chaff dispenser can operate from a pod mounted on a rail. And I am giving the Ukranians the benefit of the doubt here. Obviously one can imply they were just using the plane to take any missile fired their way. But we must assume they had good intentions. They are of the west.

84 posted on 07/19/2014 4:25:52 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: justa-hairyape
Both sides have been killing.

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No one died in Donbas until Russians arrived in April and stated killing. No one has died in Slovyansk since they left. Why is it difficult to understand? No Russians, no deaths.

This leaves out Dagestan but who's counting. some_text

85 posted on 07/19/2014 5:19:57 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: lodi90

No offense, but that appears to be a bit racist. Are you implying that all Russians are killers ? Do you want to expel all Russians from foreign countries ?


86 posted on 07/20/2014 12:02:45 AM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: sitetest

“” “” This article actually confirms it was the Ukrainian rebels that committed this heinous act of mass murder.
I have read that they couldn’t have done it without Russian technical support. This means that the creature Putin committed this act of mass murder.

Justice for Putin would come at the end of a rope.
“” “”

Why murder? There have been war and people have been killed.
As for the theory in the article it sounds far-fetched but it is not impossible for Ukraine to arrange such a thing based on their moral background. After all the coup government gunned down 100 its own supporters to pin it on the previous government and have it overthrowned.
Why do you think I would stop before destroying a civilian airliner?
Once again even if the rebels shot it who allowed it into an active war zone with numerous planes coming down for several days? Not the rebels and not Putin.

As for Putin I am not a fan of him, but would you support hanging Reagan for iran Air ‘murder’?


87 posted on 12/08/2019 5:54:09 PM PST by NorseViking
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