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1 posted on 07/17/2014 7:33:35 AM PDT by scouter
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I’ve also read that if you remove a certain “demographic” we’re about the same homicide rate as Sweden.


2 posted on 07/17/2014 7:34:50 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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check John Lott’s website. that’s where I’d start.


3 posted on 07/17/2014 7:37:00 AM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature ($1.84 - The price of a gallon of gas on Jan. 20th, 2009.)
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John Lott is the best source. You could check his website.


4 posted on 07/17/2014 7:39:19 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: scouter

This could very well be from John Lott.I would check with him or scan his book as he actually has all the numbers needed to make that conclusion and he keeps them updated.

If I remember correctly he is on this forum.


5 posted on 07/17/2014 7:39:50 AM PDT by buffaloguy
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To: scouter

Does that include suicides?


6 posted on 07/17/2014 7:40:13 AM PDT by moovova
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To: scouter; JohnLott

Paging Mr. Lott...


7 posted on 07/17/2014 7:42:00 AM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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Not even close to their highest for gun homicide, the US isn’t even in the top ten. Hondouras, Argentina, Brazil, somolia, Afghanistan, Syria, Iraq..

Well, you get the picture. The one spot which the US takes top place is in ownership rates.


8 posted on 07/17/2014 7:42:27 AM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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Of course, we ALWAYS believe what’s in the newspaper and on the Internet. The media NEVER lie to us or obfuscate the truth, do they?


10 posted on 07/17/2014 7:44:22 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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The go to FReeper about gun statistics is marktwain. This is because a lot of gun statistics are uncertain, deceptive and confusing. Even the FBI has a hard time getting accurate crime stats, for their annual Uniform Crime Report (UCR), because states vary widely in what and how they report.

As an example, Arizona is listed in the top ten for “gun homicides”, but 71% of its homicides are suicides. If you adjust for that, Arizona has one of the lowest per capita murder rates in the US.

Likewise, if you adjust the statistics for race, black Americans far outnumber all other ethnic groups per capita in both murderers *and* victims.

And marktwain is one of those few individuals who has the patience to punch through the confusion to get through to the reality.

This is not helped by the left not only embracing deceptive and contrived data, but continuing to parrot it even when it is shown to be nonsense.

On the plus side, there has been a strong effort to associate “blue states” and their gun control with crime. So what you want should be available.


11 posted on 07/17/2014 7:46:34 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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The Wonderful World of Stu: Anti-Social - Assault Weapons
15 posted on 07/17/2014 7:55:25 AM PDT by Heartlander (We are all Rodeo Clowns now!)
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To: scouter
Here is a link to a page on the FBI web site:

www.fib.gov

I suspect data is also broken down by location, but it may take a little digging to find it in that format.

20 posted on 07/17/2014 8:47:29 AM PDT by RobinOfKingston (Democrats--the party of Evil. Republicans--the party of Stupid.)
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Not sure if this reference would have it, but here's the link.

The author, Guy Smith, also visits this site here and there. Can't recall his account name, though.

Gun Facts v6!

Click the pic to go to the Gun Facts v6 download page!

23 posted on 07/17/2014 9:02:26 AM PDT by Joe Brower (The "American People" are no longer capable of self-governance.)
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Take out Hispanic and black crime and we are the lowest.


27 posted on 07/17/2014 9:43:57 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Are!)
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Remove the places with the strictest gun control - and THEN remove the crimes committed by young gang-bangers.

The numbers become miniscule.


35 posted on 07/18/2014 3:21:54 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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