Posted on 07/15/2014 7:37:40 AM PDT by fivecatsandadog
Brigitte Gabriel’s passionate response to this Muslim woman is one of the best answers ever to the constant "peaceful Muslims" objection.
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I saw this and it was a great answer. The girl accepted the answer well too.
8 million muslims here? That is sad. It never turns out good with them.
They hate the USA. Why do they come over here?
There are only a few reasons why someone moves to a new country:
With #1, it is always temporary.
#2 means the immigrant is ready and willing to adopt the new country's culture.
#3 is akin to a virus.
#4 is akin to cancer.
As Marco Polo observed:
“The militant Muslim is the person cutting the head of the infidel while the moderate Muslim holds the victims feet”.
Centuries later, not much has changed, has it?
The “girl” did NOT accept the answer well. She wrote an article that was posted here that blasted the answer.
They’re Muslims, not communists. That good ol’ “infidel” Yankee dollar brings them here. Of course, once Muslims establish themselves, the rest of us “infidels” must conform to their ways.
People eating lunch getting beaten up by muzzies fasting during Ramadan is one example.
Muslim-only prayer rooms in schools that deny such to any other religion are another.
Muzzie women in burkas with only their eyes showing demanding entry to banks which ban facial coverings is another. Eyes-only driver’s license photos as well.
Muslims who aren’t currently planting bombs or slitting throats can show their hatred of the “filthy Kuffar” by other means.
See Koran, sura 9, verse 29. Muslims’ attitude toward `kaffirs’ is summed up in that single verse.
Demographic warfare is effective but slow.It’s been going on for some time in Europe. By 2040 France will be 80% Muslim and they will be leading that former European nation.It’s the old frog in the pot and slowly heating the water until the frog can no longer jump. And that is the rodeo we are i whether we acknowledge it or are in denial. It will happen.
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“..Why do they come over here?..”
Even though they hate the US and our way of life, especially our anglo-saxon (Christian) roots, they come. Thousands of them come. They have already established hundreds of mosques throughout the US. So, “Why do they come over here?” Their Muslim religion call for them to come, to spread their religion and Sharia law, to take control, to dominate - that is their goal. They are patient but never stop. He who has ears, let him hear. He who has eyes let him see. He who has a mind let him understand. He who has any intestinal fortitude, let him stand up and demand it stop.
They are either “Peaceful” or Muslim. The religion does not allow both.
“Proud tradition”? Really?? I mean, even IF this was a documented fact, why try to be persuasive or appear in command of the issue by using SUCH a culturally exhausted and outmoded expression?
Where does he come up with this BS?
Maybe someone coached him on the use of hackneyed, dated and specious phrases that mean even LESS and are even MORE idiotic NOW than when they were first coined!!
“O”, it appears, was NEVER a scholar and is NOT a person who is well-read... it is obvious in his expressions.
No properly educated and mature individual would lower himself to using a phrase or idiom SO grammatically antiquated and void of expressive complexity that it makes him appear unread, coarse and common.
Our President, I am sure, is a functional illiterate!
“Already posted” - but you know what? I LOVE IT!
Wish we could “stickie” this thing permanently at the top of the forums...
;)
Good, but it won’t shut the bearded savages up.
1 person standing up is not a standing ovation.
Because they want to fight with the Mexicans and the Chinese over who's going to own North America in the next century.
Call them ‘moslems’. It pisses them off.
The difference in pronunciation is slight but is hugely insulting in Arabic, IIRC.
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So who is was the Muslim woman in the audience and is she irrelevant?
As it turns out, the woman’s name is Saba Ahmed and she was not just some innocuous audience member who happened to show up at a Heritage Foundation event.
Saba was born in Pakistan and moved to Portland Oregon at age 12. She has numerous academic degrees and a particular interest in protecting the Islamic Ummah from America’s “useless wars.” She feels so passionately about this that while in Portland, she became very active in Democrat politics for years, even making an unsuccessful bid for congress in 2012. As a candidate, her priority was to bring home all American troops and cut military spending. “There is no need for them to be in foreign countries”… “Drone attacks in Pakistan and Afghanistan are hurting our long term national security and will come back to haunt us.”
After obtaining less than ½ percent of the vote, Saba switched her registration to Republican. But her ideology hadn’t changed. She marched in Occupy Portland, which had a large anti-Israel component, and was a featured speaker. She argued that the Muslim world hates America and therefore America should change her policies. She explained that Muslims in foreign countries are suffering as a result of U.S. policies and don’t have a voice. “We are their voice here in the United States”, she proclaimed.
Despite claiming to be Republican, she was banned from the Oregon Tea Party and the Washington County Republicans, not for her “Islamic views” as she claims, but for false accusations of death threats.
Saba made an appearance at Glenn Beck’s 9/12 meeting in Oregon, and while clinging onto a Koran, proclaimed that her faith is all she has. In TV interviews with Sean Hannity and others, she refuses to denounce any portion of Sharia law, arguing instead that “there are good and bad things everywhere.” She dodges, deflects and avoids addressing the human rights violations and tyranny committed in the name of Islam. When she’s unable to duck a question, she always has an excuse. Hannity, for example, asked Saba if she would denounce the law in Saudi Arabia that disallows women outside the home without being accompanied by a male relative. Saba replied, “I wouldn’t feel comfortable going outside alone in parts of Afghanistan. I wouldn’t want to.” Yet, she whines that, “especially in America, it’s a very harsh environment [for Muslims] due to the bias.”
Not surprisingly, Saba denies the right of Israel to have its current boundaries and argues that the boundaries for Israel after 1948 have caused “division among people all around the world.” And in an interview, when confronted with the fact that there’s nothing in Christianity comparable to Islamic terrorism, she replied, “[T]he United States Military and CIA are the most well-funded Christian organizations that regularly conduct crimes against humanity all around the world. Currently we are killing and murdering people in Libya, Syria, Yemen, Palestine, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq. etc. with our drones, missiles, bombs, etc. What is the practical difference between a soldier who kills and an Al-Qaida operative the kills??? Both in God’s eyes are taking sacred life…”
Yet, as someone who insists she is against all killing, Saba still has ties to Mohamed Mohamud, a Somali born Islamic terrorist who attempted to bomb a Christmas tree lighting in Portland, Oregon in 2010. She even showed up at his trial to provide him support. When a mosque was torched in response to the bomb attempt, Saba blamed the U.S. government for “inciting violence” and warned, “[W]e will take very serious action – politically and legally – against the government for this.”
It’s no wonder coming from a woman who has attended CAIR’s Iftar dinner and was a member of the Islamic Society of Greater Portland (an outgrowth of ISNA). Both CAIR and ISNA are Muslim Brotherhood affiliates, whose mission is to destroy western civilization from within. They were also unindicted co-conspirators in the largest terror financing trial in the history of the United States.
Saba claims that she was Co-Chair of the Oregon Muslims Citizens Alliance, which, if it exists, has no website and appears to have had no activities except one “cancelled” event, which research confirms was never planned to begin with.
Saba has interned for Democratic politicians including Governor Ted Kulongoski, Senator Leahy and Representative Earl Blumenauer. She currently has an LLC or at least a website which appears to represent an LLC. According to blogger Ernest Dell, originally the website indicated that Saba Ahmed, LLC represented a global investment and intellectual property research service, with its corporate office in Portland, Oregon and its research center in New Delhi, India. The site stated that the company had a high end financial research team comprised of experts on a variety of asset classes, and provided services to investment banks, equity firms, asset management firms, financial advisory firms, and additionally had an “intellectual property team” that serviced law firms, in intellectual property firms, in-house IP corporate counsels.
Now Saba states that her LLC is a firm from which she lobbies Congress to stop all wars, claiming “expertise” in national security matters, despite any objective training or experience. The current site indicates no employees other than Saba and lists no clients. And despite her Republican registration, she is seeking a political appointment with the Obama Administration. Though insisting that she’s in “discussions” toward this end, there is no evidence that the interest is mutual or that it is anything more than Saba expressing her self-aggrandizing desire to land a plumb political position.
Brigitte Gabriel never denounced the peaceful majority of any country when she asserted their irrelevance. Clearly, what she meant is that the focus needs to be on the problem. And the problem is always the radical minority who may have less numbers, but has the power to undermine freedom and security.
Saba appears to be worming her way into politics, not to represent Americans or U.S. interests, but to represent the Muslim world. She says she doesn’t want to be irrelevant, but given her pro-Sharia apologetics and her advocacy for peace at the cost of freedom, let’s hope that she is.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/deborah-weiss/saba-ahmed-unveiled/
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