Reality of the IRS Scandal

Townhall.com ^ | July 13, 2014 | Bruce Bialosky

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Can you tell me how you see the prebate being used by pols?
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Well....Some citizens would be more equal than others. Fill in the blank for the reason. (......) OINK!

Any crisis would do as an excuse to start meddling with the prebates. And....Prebates require federal administration that would grow larger and larger every year.

I support the Fair Tax and would be thrilled to see it. The better solution is to get the federal government completely out of the tax collecting business. With the 50 State Tax there would merely be 50 bills sent, one to each governor.

[Principled]

But there is no difference between individuals in an excise environment - there is no way to differentiate groups like there is under an income tax. So I don’t know how they will “meddle”?

Notwithstanding my remaining question to you ... i indeed like the 50 state deal.

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One more thing about prebates and the federal agency needed to service it:

This prebate agency could, if it exited, could easily be usurped for other purposes just as the IRS is now be used to manage health care.

Again...I support the Fair Tax. It would be MUCH better than what we have now.

Better would be to have the federal government completely out of the tax collecting business. The 50 State plan would do that.

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I just thought of another reason.

The liberal Marxo/fascist scream, “It's NOT FAIR!” So? ...What's the problem with the 50 State plan? If the Marxofascist want a highly progressive tax on the rich they can lobby their state governments for it.

In the end, the states with the most reasonable collection practices with thrive and business and people will move to their states. Those states with crappy collection methods will lose big time.

[Principled]

Prebates are voluntary. If one prefers not to bother with it, one doesn’t have to.

I don’t know how that is bad or anything like the IRS.

My preference is no prebate swap for 3% lower rate. I do not see at all how it can be used for mischief.

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The fact that a federal agency exists to collect the tax is cause enough for mischief. Do you see how the IRS is being used now as health care agency.

Would some business, for political reasons, be more likely or less likely to be audited that others?

And...Prebates need to managed. That means federal workers and infrastructure and all the political problems that come with any federal agency.

But...Again I support the Fair Tax and would be thrilled to see it. I just think the 50 State plan would be better.

[Principled]

Would some business, for political reasons, be more likely or less likely to be audited that others?

Thanks - now I understand you better. Your posts had me looking at _rate_ mischief. But I understand your point.

Under the nrst excise, states have the choice to promulgate the excise - and they are paid to do it. States may also choose another state to administer in their state. Nothing says feds do it. At a minimum, state sales taxing authorities being controlled by states is better than being controlled by feds. But your point is well taken.

Now that I think about it, the nrst excise has a bit in commmon with what i've read that you posted on a 50 state plan. States admininster and remit... not the feds. And states may choose how they collect it albeit within the federal excise constraints.

interested to hear more about 50 state thing - anything published anywhere?

[MrB]

The left would hate the fifty state plan on its face because it would irrefutably prove what a failure their ideas are.

[MrB]

The fifty state plan is so simple that the only writing about it would be to speculate how it would change society. Of course leftists would hate it because it would allow people to escape their grip.

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Nothing published. It’s my idea, as far as I know and the term “50 State”.

But...I would think someone other than me has given it some serious thought.