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To: GilesB

Exactly what do you think these districts are for ? They’re explicitly drawn for the purposes of electing a Black (or Hispanic, in some cases) member. Any attempt to substantially dilute or break up said districts is forbidden (as per the VRA, Justice Department, et al). Several states, including Florida, must have the maps submitted to Justice in order to assure they meet said requirements.

I’m not entirely clear on what you’re specifically arguing here. In the case of Corrine Brown’s seat, the FL legislature can’t simply “undraw” it. I thoroughly disagree with the so-called “fair districts” initiative, since it interferes with the right of the FL legislature to be able to exercise its duty to draw a partisan map that benefits the majority (as it is already partially hamstrung by the VRA/Justice requirements to draw the aforementioned Black (Dem) districts).

The Feds shouldn’t even have a say in approving/disapproving lines, unless there’s a gross violation of the number of individuals residing from one district to another (i.e. 500,000 in District A, 800,000 in District B, 400,000 in District C, etc). I personally oppose the VRA, since it explicitly favors the voting rights of one racial group at the expense of another. I live in a legislative district under the VRA, and as a non-Black Conservative, I have no representation whatsoever, and my vote is worthless.


49 posted on 07/12/2014 9:39:42 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

I stated that there is no federal law requiring a safe district for - i.e. guaranteeing a win by - a minority.

There is no such law. This district in Florida violates the act, and specifically violates the ruling I mentioned.

Yes,not only can Florida undraw it -they must, according to the law.

That district was not drawn to assure the election of a black person, it was drawn to include as many blacks as possible in one district, thereby diluting their influence in other districts...which is expressly against the law.

This is shoddy, underhanded, despicable politics at its worst. This was drawn up by a rotten sack of scum buckets.

Your opinion of the duty of the legislature is skewed, and clearly displays what’s wrong in all this.
It is NOT their duty to draw districts to benefit the majority. It is their duty to draw reasonable, cohesive, and logical districts - they have misused that responsibility to benefit the majority.


50 posted on 07/12/2014 10:08:36 PM PDT by GilesB
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