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To: ifinnegan
I'm not sure I understand. It seemed that you were making what appeared to be factual statements, but now it appears to be some theory you have come up with? Bye the way, Cannabis technically is psychoactive not an hallucinogen.

A few other things you might consider is that Opium causes dissociative hypnogogic hallucinations. Methamphetamine commonly causes users to suffer from paranoid delusions, and psychotic behavior not to mention that it ( along with amphetamine, cocaine, Dexedrine, Adderall (dextroamphetamine), Ritalin(methylphenidate) and even caffeine in sufficient doses) can cause sleep deprivation hallucinations which are far more severe than LSD, MDMA, and Psilocybin.

Further I suspect that there are many people due to their misuse of meth/amphetamine, alcohol, opiates etc that would consider their drug addiction "life changing".

Most of those people wouldn't even call cannabis a "real" drug.

76 posted on 07/08/2014 8:02:29 PM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: Durus

pot legal, drugs overrun, someone in the UK saying pedophilia is normal...

These are some heady times for Libertopians.... paradise is nigh


77 posted on 07/08/2014 8:05:03 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Durus

Your comments are pithy, but not serious.

I don’t consider your statements intellectually honest based upon the amount of intelligence you present and knowledge you present.

You clearly know how you are playing games rather than objectively and honestly discussing properties of different classes of drugs.

Eg, the initial effects of amphetamines or opiods are not the long term side effects you mention, which are not the same as the primary and immediate affects of drugs such as pot or hallucinogens.

You can play word games, eg life changing, and your comment is of course accurate but you know that is not what is meant

Call it worldview paradigm change rather than life change.

I don’t think you really have any disagreement or misunderstanding of what I’ve been saying, but simply don’t like to look at it that way.


84 posted on 07/08/2014 8:46:37 PM PDT by ifinnegan
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