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To: abb; redgolum
So the question becomes who do you stiff first? That is the argument.

This current crop of seniors has an easy answer to that question - the young people who are currently working should be stiffed first.

And, each day, we have between 10,000 and 11,000 people celebrating their 65th birthday - each day.

And, they vote.

107 posted on 07/04/2014 9:27:51 AM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: Tau Food

I have a suggestion as to who to stiff first.

1.) SS Disability. Let’s make absolutely sure that those who collect really cannot work.

2.) Government Employees. Do we really need as many government employees as we now have?

3.) Gold-Plated Government Medical Plans, all taxpayer-funded, of course. Let them deal with Medicaire, just like all the rest of us.

4.) Gold-plated Government Retirements. ALL government employees have to work to 62 minimum before retirement, just like civilians. Also, defined contribution plans, instead of the taxpayer-funded pensions.

After ALL OF THE ABOVE are done, then I say we talk about SS.


108 posted on 07/04/2014 9:34:54 AM PDT by abb
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To: Tau Food; abb

Ok,

As I have said, I am screwed. Because of the tantrums of elderly adolescents, I will have to die working in order to fund the second childhood of many who should have known better.

So be it.

But if you (so God help) keep it up and demand food from my table that is going to feed my children to fund it, then there will be problems.

We are heading for a very interesting time. In the 1950’s, a great many people left the work force in order to make way for the Boomers. They did so in order to sacrifice for the new generation, a noble thing. Now we have people demanding that we sacrifice the new generations in order to fund their retirement.

How long will that work out? We have a generation of kids (actually adults in their 20’s) that have yet to be able to enter the work force. I have a job, many of them do not. How long do you think this game will go one?

I expect you honestly don’t care. You want your government benifit, because you were lied to and want it to be made good. I understand.

But the way society is going now, we have to stop be adolescents and be adults. I was promised a great many things, both spoken word and by contract. Reality hit, and those were not fulfilled. In the breach of contract case, there was literally nothing I could do short of suing which for a bankrupt company would have been futile (they had much greater issues than me).

That is the situation we are in. The US is bankrupt. We are hiring mercs (PMC’s) to fight our wars, police our streets, because the benefit packages are so high. We are cutting back on infrastructure projects because the money that should have gone there was looted for all sorts of things.

This is how civilizations die. If we don’t want to go away, we all are going to have to face pain.


120 posted on 07/04/2014 10:43:01 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Tau Food; abb; redgolum

No to you, per se, but, for a forum/people that loves to bitch about the ‘perversion of language’ most sure love to use the same perverted words/phrases. Contribution, entitlement, promises, etc.

Gov’t doesn’t have dollar ONE, unless it takes it from someone else. Just because they have promised to steal your own $$ to ‘invest’ it for your retirement, or promised goodies to stay in the military (sorry all. I’m not knocking the military, they do a good job with the BS they have, but the boat is the same), or any other snake-oil, it remains...snake oil. And, you’re still wrong to expect any promises from gov’t to be honored; as they have none, and no authority to take from one to give to another.

Now, as to your point: they may have the ‘easy’ answer, but it’s 180; they had little to do with the mess and easiest to get out and make it right for themselves. The seniors, on the other hand, have had numerous votes to correct the same, but never have.

When the Gen XYZ+ finally have enough of getting their pockets picked so grand-mom/pop can hit the Bahamas again this month, it’s gonna be messy...to say the least


149 posted on 07/04/2014 3:27:47 PM PDT by i_robot73 (Give me one example and I will show where gov't is the root of the problem(s).)
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To: Tau Food

So the question becomes who do you stiff first? That is the argument. This current crop of seniors has an easy answer to that question - the young people who are currently working should be stiffed first. And, each day, we have between 10,000 and 11,000 people celebrating their 65th birthday - each day. And, they vote.


And young people don’t vote, so it’ll be Solyent Green/Living Dead. Old will eat the young.

But that assumes young people wont get serious about voting - they’ll certainly have more and more incentive to as their after-home pay shrinks.


194 posted on 07/04/2014 10:18:29 PM PDT by quesney (e)
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