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Robert De Niro Talks About Father's Homosexuality Conflict; 'Prayers Don't Help,' Father Said
Christian Post ^ | 07/02/2014 | Hayley Olson

Posted on 07/03/2014 8:09:35 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Robert De Niro said in a recent interview that his late father never discussed his homosexuality.

"He was very private so he wouldn't go into that with me," De Niro told Katie Couric on Yahoo News. "I don't really know much about that side of my father."

The Academy Award winning actor said he did have "some inkling" that his father was gay and his mother even made some inferences but it was never "brought up."

"You kind of ... knew but didn't know," he said.

De Niro has been making media rounds to promote his documentary, "Remembering the Artist: Robert De Niro, Sr." The actor used his father's journal entries to chronicle the life of the artist, who died of prostate cancer at 71 years old in 1993.

In the documentary, De Niro Jr. reads several journal entries where his father describes his struggle with homosexuality.

"If God doesn't want me to be a homosexual (about which I have so much guilt) he will find a woman whom I will love and who will love me or at least create an interest in me in women as sexual partners," De Niro Sr. wrote.

"The pills don't help or the prayers either. God! God! God!"

In another journal entry, De Niro Sr. – whose paintings include depictions of Jesus and the cross – wrote, "Being a painter is an affliction. Like being a homosexual. One has to have the strength to continue working without the recognition either before or after death just as one had to have the strength to accept life alone without the thought of romantic attachment."

The younger De Niro, who wants to promote his father's art work, said his parents divorced when he was 11 or 12 but actually separated when he was 2 or 3 years old.

"Obviously, I realize now that it was hard for him," the actor said.


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To: Liz

That’s interesting. That’s not a lot of money. This may be why the younger is promoting the elder’s work. Not necessarily because of the money but to create the impression that he is more highly valued as an artist than he truly is.


41 posted on 07/03/2014 9:04:53 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: SeekAndFind
...If the above is true, then how can we argue that they are not BORN THAT WAY?

And women with a high sex drive can be sluts, too; and we have been subjected to a social engineering program since the 60s to protect their civil rights as well; but face it, few people would really recommend that a slut is "just as good at raising children" as the gay lobby claims about "married" gays. At least we still recognize the damage to young minds from knowing mom is a slut.

We can argue anything we want; but behavior is a choice. I personally come from a long line of Irish alcoholics. That's why, realizing at first hand in my youth the heartbreak and devastation drunken behaviors caused, I chose not to drink. I have the genes; I cope with addictive behavior issues constantly like being online when I shouldn't be; but I'm in seven decades now of not drinking. I will be in recovery all my life, and even after not drinking all my life, I go to AA or ACOA meetings from time to time, and consider myself "in recovery" for a lifetime. But I don't get drunk and get behind the wheel, pick up other drunks in bars, let others rob me because I'm drunk, total the car while drunk, set the house on fire, abuse my children or any of the harm-to-others crap that proceeds from alcohol-abuse behaviors.

Surely it's the same for those born highly sexed. They need to come to terms with it and find ways to live in harmony with normality, not in open rebellion or invitations to self-detruction.

We can't help how we are born. But we can set goals for how we want to live, take up our cross, and put one foot in front of the other for the salvation of our lives.

42 posted on 07/03/2014 9:06:44 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: All
There are a few accepted schools of thought WRT homosexuality.

<><> The homosexual is till in the adolescent stage---w/ its discovery of sex/ genitalia.

<><> For the jaded male, Homosexual sex is considered far better than male/female type....thus it becomes a choice.

<><> In certain circles, homosexuality is all about decadence---and rejection of societal norms.

43 posted on 07/03/2014 9:09:14 AM PDT by Liz (Another Clinton administration? Are you nuts?)
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To: miss marmelstein
Mmmmmm....always have to figure actors are opportunists---need to have their names out there to get parts.

There was a lot of interest when the Salander case broken --- so he's trying to capitalize on that, I suppose.

44 posted on 07/03/2014 9:15:09 AM PDT by Liz (Another Clinton administration? Are you nuts?)
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To: SeekAndFind
1) Have children only to realize they're gay later in life and abandon their families.

I've never heard it your way. But I've met lots of homosexuals [I live in Hollywood] who "try to make marriage with a woman work" and have a family. Only, to admit it's not working ... or the wife says it's not working. BTW, Anne Heche was never gay. She was pretending to be a lesbian to have an affair with Ellen.

45 posted on 07/03/2014 9:18:30 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: Liz

Or he’s promoting his father’s homosexuality - a trait his poor dad tried to hide. Doesn’t DeNiro have enough fame and fortune to leave the old man alone? In the immortal words of Dorothy Parker when talking about the furor in the wake of F. Scott Fitzgerald’s death: Not only are they digging up his bones, they’re gnawing on them.


46 posted on 07/03/2014 9:22:53 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: SeekAndFind

There is no real ‘struggle’ if the person simply doesn’t ‘go there’ in his imagination.

I’ve learned that the word ‘struggle’ in this context doesn’t refer to an honest attempt to stay away from this attraction entirely rather it is used to cover the self disgust and remorse that a person feels after wallowing in it imaginatively or actually.

Normal men don’t walk around ‘struggling’ with an attraction to 15 year old girls despite the fact that most 15 year old girls are fully physically developed. Despite the tremendous (and to say nothing of NATURAL)theoretical attraction it STILL has to be worked at by an individual and no doubt would result in the same moral degradation over time.


47 posted on 07/03/2014 9:22:56 AM PDT by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: Liz

I always bought your first school of thought - which is Freud’s. Adolescent, pure and simple.


48 posted on 07/03/2014 9:24:43 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Maybe both are a bit like what Gov. Perry says about alcoholism. Certainly there are people born with the proclivity for being an artist. I know because I raised two. Mama don’t let your baby grow up to play banjo. My family also has some genetic disposition to addictive behavior whether its drugs, alcohol, video games, etc. My boys had a friend in the neighborhood when they were little whom they referred to as she. He was four years old. I never corrected them and I don’t think he was telling them that. Now an adult he lives that lifestyle in CA. I was not at all surprised. Celibacy is a choice. Sin is a choice. De Niro is a very good actor (just watched his Richard III) but he is an east coast lib. Kudos to him for helping his old, alcoholic, depressed father. Doesn’t matter if he is gay or not.


49 posted on 07/03/2014 9:25:16 AM PDT by Mercat
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To: BunnySlippers

RE: I’ve never heard it your way.

Have you ever heard of Episcopal Bishop Gene Robinson? He married Isabella McDaniel, had 2 kids with her, and then eventually left her to “marry” ( note the quotes ) Mark Andrew.

That “marriage” with Mark ended in “divorce” ( again note the quotes) this year.

That’s just one example.

RE: BTW, Anne Heche was never gay. She was pretending to be a lesbian to have an affair with Ellen.

What was the objective of this “pretense”?

And if she’s not gay, how the heck could she do “it” physically with Ellen?


50 posted on 07/03/2014 9:30:26 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: miss marmelstein

Yes, an assessment of closeted homos in his day.

Now its so open and looked upon w/ some approval.

Wonder what Freud would think of same-sex marriage?


51 posted on 07/03/2014 9:44:14 AM PDT by Liz (Another Clinton administration? Are you nuts?)
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To: miss marmelstein

Poor dad——I doubt if he would want his secret thoughts confided to his personal journal laid bare by his son..


52 posted on 07/03/2014 9:47:28 AM PDT by Liz (Another Clinton administration? Are you nuts?)
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To: SeekAndFind
"Being a painter is an affliction. Like being a homosexual.

What a horndog Earl Scheib must have been.

53 posted on 07/03/2014 9:49:50 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: mowowie

Yup, dad only gave it one shot and the best part ended up as a stain on the mattress.


54 posted on 07/03/2014 9:50:17 AM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: longfellow

Gross comment.

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55 posted on 07/03/2014 9:51:29 AM PDT by Mears
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To: SeekAndFind

The late Christian healer Agnes Sanford claimed to heal homosexuality on a regular basis.


56 posted on 07/03/2014 9:54:59 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: SeekAndFind
"Certain societies at certain times, usually in the interest of maintaining the baby supply, have discouraged homosexuality."

I've often wondered if the recent "boom" in homosexuality, and the drive towards social acceptance of it, has been somehow deliberately engineered by those with an interest in radically decreasing the world's population.
57 posted on 07/03/2014 9:57:55 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: SeekAndFind

Because it isn’t true.


58 posted on 07/03/2014 9:58:50 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: SeekAndFind

A lot of people seem to move back and forth between the homosexual and heterosexual lifestyle. Meredith Baxter (67) was married three times. Late in life, she decides she is gay and marries a woman. Tony Perkins was gay and late in life he marries and had two children. Sadly, his wife was on one of the planes that went into the twin towers. We really don’t know why some people are homosexual. We do know that the behavior is unhealthy. A lot of people do things that are unhealthy. I don’t hate them for it, but I do not understand why we are allowing the homosexual agenda to be pushed. It is not good for the people involved and devastating for the country.


59 posted on 07/03/2014 10:02:32 AM PDT by Essie
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To: Liz
My dad somehow combined his staunch Catholic conservatism with strong pro-Democrat views, and this persisted even as the Dems embraced homosexuality, abortion, and far-left feminism. Keep in mind, my father's views on those issues never changed, but that fact never seemed to interfere with his Democratic allegiance. (No, he wasn't a union guy, and didn't even particularly like unions!)

But I wonder if the gay marriage thing would have finally driven him off the edge? Maybe it's good he passed on in 2004.
60 posted on 07/03/2014 10:03:26 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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