[drypowder]

it's not whether a fence will be affective, that's a no brainer. The issue is how do we the people force the criminals in DC to build it.

[kingattax]

The issue is how do we the people force the criminals in DC to build it.

thats the real money question and we have to find the best solution ASAP.

America is obviously in a real hell of a mess, and we need serious people (forget the politicians) trying to solve some serious problems with ideas and solutions we can build support around and save this republic.

maybe some of those ideas and solutions will be found on threads like this here in FR.