Posted on 07/01/2014 2:30:21 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
The nation’s second-largest physicians’ organization said Monday that healthy women who are not pregnant do not need routine pelvic exams, a controversial recommendation based on its analysis that, on balance, the manual screening does more harm than good.
The American College of Physicians, which represents 137,000 internal medicine physicians and related specialists, said the diagnostic procedure causes some women discomfort, anxiety, pain and additional medical costs, and may keep some from seeing their doctors. Yet it does little to detect ovarian cancer or other disorders.
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Just remember when psychotics (liberals) emphasize some dreaded thing that’s oppressing them, the truth is the diametrically opposite of what they contend. This is a well defined pattern which can be scientifically observed in every place where psychos congregate. Most notable example is Detroit. When they cry oppression by “the man”, it is really self-inflicted. I am no psychologist, but it is sad that these people are tearing down our country.
Yes...we have a beautiful son and she tries hard to make him like she is, but he is a brilliant boy who likes normal things and wants to be a man. Mental illness is a weakness and normal people sense that!
Well, the young often do not see mental illness until they are independent and on their own. And the mentally ill are often much stronger than normal people. They tend to be the leaders in a nuclear family.
My mother was mentally ill. Borderline personality. Narcissistic. It was utter hell living with her.
And true to what you wrote, she ruled the household. Even over my father.
I didn’t put the whole picture together of her sickness and the effects until I was past 30 years old.
It is devastating growing up with a mentally unstable parent. You are correct, that kind of parent will drain you.
Can a kid overcome it? Of course. I just wish things were different.
People should never fool themselves about the mentally ill - especially the narcissistic types that hide it from the world and only show it in the home. Phew! Destructive. Nuclear bomb destructive.
Yes, that was my point. PAP exams are meant for early detection in women who are feeling healthy.
Perhaps you are right. No one ever feels just fine only to find out that they have some fatal disease that could have been easily cured if they had been screened for it.
Did I use the words: all the time, 100% of the time, everyone do what I say....in any of my posts????
No I didn’t.
Let me state again...DO WHAT YOU WANT. HAVE EVERY TEST YOU WANT TO.
I will state my opinion again: Most of these tests, and most prescription drugs are useless at best. In some cases the tests and drugs and hospital stays can make you sick or kill you.
I (read not you) choose to only see a doctor if and when I feel very ill and I want help with it. My choice, my prerogative.
Are we square now?
The problem is that we don’t KNOW which test may uncover the fatal disease that can be avoided if caught early. I support the right not to have these tests if people don’t want them. For those who do, I support their right to choose to have them, as well. I am all about freedom. You are probably right that some of these tests carry risks in themselves. No one should be forced to take them.
My only point is that these tests do reveal diseases when they are present, and not to take the tests involve a level of risk.
I don’t agree that just because a test comes back negative that it was useless. On the other hand, I have had some drugs prescribed that I quit taking after a while because they did nothing for me.
I was not upset with you, but you sure seem upset with me. I meant no harm.
This freedom to have “tests” you speak of is all well and good.
I don’t want to pay for them. At this time, I am paying for them.
I say the individual should have to pay-to-play so to speak.
I don’t mind dying if it is my time. I will take measures to stay as healthy as I can with the knowledge I have.
I will go to see doctors for major emergencies. Wounds, breaks, alarming pain, infection...etc.
I grew up with a very disabled brother. He got that way because he was drunk and ran his car into a tree at 17. My mother went to extraordinary lengths for 30 years keeping him alive. Tubes, surgeries, pills, whatever...you name it.
Now some believe that is right. To some degree I guess I do. But my brothers quality of life was beyond sad. Not just my opinion, his opinion. My mother guilted him into staying alive for her. Abuse and guilt. And of course the multitude of medical personnel agreed to it all. More sickness, more willingness, more money. Greed and selfishness wins.
I choose to live my life my way. I trust God more than I do you or the overused tests and drugs being pushed on us.
I addressed you the way I did because you responded to me with sarcasm.
Usually if someone wants a friendly debate, they don’t resort to sarcasm. It is a way to make fun of someone. That is what you did.
So how can I check for HPV, gonorrhea and chlamydia?
They never seem to think things out before they speak do they?
Paps are out, HPV tests are in, and if you had the HPV vaccine as a teen, you probably don’ t need the Pap.
For technical reasons, an HPV test might not pick up an infection, the presence of an infection does not indicate whether a dysplasia is present or what stage it is if it is, a cervical sample is still needed to test, and the shots only protect against HPV 16 and 18, which are responsible only for some (about 70%) of cervical cancers.
So PAP testing is still necessary.
Yes! and this is after years and years of begging us, reminding us, encouraging us to get yearly exams because our health depended on it. They did the same thing with mammograms. Now, lo and behold, because of obummercare, suddenly there’s no need for yearly mammos or paps!
With an incidence of only 25-35 per 100,000, colorectal cancer cases could not possibly end more lives than that, and, of course, colonoscopy doesn't guarantee all will be detected, pre-empted or treated successfully. In addition the perforations and infections and cost must be considered.
That's one thing they got right.
Your lifetime risk of developing colon cancer is 4.8 percent.
what it looks like is that political scare tactics were used to get women to take the tests every year so that insrance companies would make more money.
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