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To: Republican1795.; All

Contraceptive coverage is primarily to prevent the pregnancies that someone might want to abort, so why isn’t it a good thing? Also just wait until some Muslim owned companies don’t want to do or allow something that their employees feel is their right.


15 posted on 06/30/2014 10:30:52 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: gleeaikin

Two points.

First, if you want to have sex do it on your own dime. It is a choice.

Second, if you don’t like the policies of a Muslim owned company then don’t work for it.

It is as simple as that.


23 posted on 06/30/2014 10:41:52 PM PDT by DB
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To: gleeaikin

I’ve never understood this thinking either. I’d gladly pay for contraception coverage if it saved one baby from being sucked down a drain.


27 posted on 06/30/2014 10:47:21 PM PDT by TightyRighty (I enjoy well-mannered frivolity.)
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To: gleeaikin

You’re mixing your analogies. While the Muslim company has no business telling people they can’t eat pork after hours, it would certainly be wrong to legally REQUIRE the company to purchase and provide pork to their employees, just because their employees have the right to eat pork. That’s the analogy to what was covered under this ruling.


29 posted on 06/30/2014 10:55:53 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: gleeaikin

Contraceptive coverage isn’t the issue, abortion is.


31 posted on 06/30/2014 11:00:55 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (Hoaxey Dopey Changey)
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To: gleeaikin

What’s not good about it is that forcing the owners of Hobby Lobby to pay for and subsidize a drug that causes the spontaneous abortion of a fertilized egg would be violating their their right to practice their religious beliefs.

You apparently do not have a problem with contraception or abortifacients. If you did, I’m sure that you would not care what other people choose to do with unplanned pregnancies, but you would not want to be forced to pay to terminate conceived life either.


32 posted on 06/30/2014 11:01:51 PM PDT by motoman (")
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To: gleeaikin

Why should we care? No one is forced to work for Muslim owned companies. The idea that the federal government has blurred the line so much between private business and the federal sphere is the problem. Such regulations were never meant to be at the federal level. I personally would’ve loved if the ruling went further in affirming individual liberty in the ownership of a business and used freedom of conscience as something that can apply to any business. Its not as if there is any lack of left wing companies like Mozilla that think firing anyone who doesn’t agree with gay marriage is just great and I’m all good with that provided that conservative companies can make the same kind of decisions when hiring a firing from a conservative basis.

I believe it is healthy. What is killing and dividing America is the growing federal strait jacket where the left is using regulations to force their views onto everyone else with patently unconstitutional laws like VAWA and ENDA and Equal pay bs and worse like Obamacare. This ruling reasserts in a small way that the federal government does NOT get to foist its social views on private business overriding the religious views of the owners and that is a very good thing. It is the path to deconstructing the behemoth if built upon.

Either way the beast is going to come down. The only difference is if it can be done peacefully or not. I prefer peacefully through reassertion of the constitution but we still have a problem with an oligarchy and elected officials that don’t seem to think anything limits them and there is only one solution if that persists and that is a Bastille day.

http://rock.rapgenius.com/Rush-bastille-day-lyrics


33 posted on 06/30/2014 11:31:43 PM PDT by Maelstorm (America wasn't founded with the battle cry of "Give me Liberty or cut me a government check!".)
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To: gleeaikin

Kindly tell me, what the hell is wrong with you?

Seriously, you think it’s a good idea to use federal law to force third parties to pay for abortifacients? (which if you’d bothered to actually read the ruling was an important element of the legal arguments)

You’ve got a heroic quantity of fuzzy-brained nonsense and hyperbole going on in your post. Tell me, precisely, how does not paying for someone’s morning after pill equate, in your warped mind, to muslim companies not allowing “something that their employees feel is their right”?

What precise effing right is being abridged here? The right to force someone to pay for your abortifacients?!?! Where do you people come up with this crap? Why in the hell do you think... pardon me, “feel” since you’re obviously not thinking, why in the hell do you “feel” that your ‘rights’ are being infringed when other people aren’t being forced to foot the bill for contraceptives or abortifacients?

Is your concept of liberty contingent upon being free from both the consequences of your own misbehavior AND free from having to pay the bill for your own abortion drugs?


46 posted on 07/01/2014 3:38:05 AM PDT by jameslalor
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