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Supreme Court: Yes, (some) corporations can pray--and you'll all pay
Los Angeles Times ^
| June 30, 2014
| by Michael Hiltzik
Posted on 06/30/2014 2:18:49 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer; All
FR: Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponents Argument
Regardless of today's win for patriots at the Supreme Court, let's not forget the following. Regardless what activist justices want everybody to think about the constitutionality of constitutionally indefensible Obamacare Democratcare, the states have never delegated to the feds, expressly via the Constitution, the specific power to regulate, tax and spend for intrastate public healthcare purposes.
In other words, the Hobby Lobby case should never have happened.
To: GeronL
The woman looks like a senescent chimpanzee.
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posted on
06/30/2014 2:38:04 PM PDT
by
Argus
To: Oldeconomybuyer
The 1st Amendment of the US prohibits the Congress from making laws prohibiting the free exercise of religion.
And what did the Congress just do?
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posted on
06/30/2014 2:38:17 PM PDT
by
Tzimisce
To: Deo volente
Oh, Oh, Oh, can I play this game as well?
Ginsburg's question is apt: What's next?
After the individual mandate of Obamacare: WHAT'S NEXT?
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posted on
06/30/2014 2:38:55 PM PDT
by
Delta Dawn
(Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
To: Oldeconomybuyer
Nothing worse than a Progressive scorned.
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posted on
06/30/2014 2:43:37 PM PDT
by
RetiredTexasVet
(Surgeon General Warning: Operation of Government Motors vehicles may be hazardous to your health)
To: DanielRedfoot
Excellent b!tch slap of the LA Slimes.
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posted on
06/30/2014 2:45:02 PM PDT
by
RetiredTexasVet
(Surgeon General Warning: Operation of Government Motors vehicles may be hazardous to your health)
To: Kenny
unfortunately, severability wont come up because the birth control mandate was not in the original Obamacare legislation.
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posted on
06/30/2014 2:45:16 PM PDT
by
Kansas58
To: Oldeconomybuyer
the conservative Supreme Court majority that upheld corporations’ religious objections to birth control
Okay you dropped the ball right there and nothing else you say has meaning. You failed in honesty so we can not believe anything else you say.
The objection was NOT to birth control, it was them being forced to pay for it. Any women can still get all the birth control she can swallow. She just must be willing to pay for it herself. So you lose the argument because you resorted to disortion as usual....
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posted on
06/30/2014 2:46:49 PM PDT
by
SECURE AMERICA
(I am an American Not a Republican or a Democrat.)
To: Oldeconomybuyer
Supreme Court: Yes, (some) corporations can pray--and you'll all pay Hiltzik, Hiltzik, Hiltzik...
We are all paying now.
And we (working, net-taxpaying Americans) will all be paying forever, no matter how the chairs on the Obamacare Titanic are rearranged.
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posted on
06/30/2014 2:46:58 PM PDT
by
publius911
( Politicians come and go... but the (union) bureaucracy lives and grows forever.)
To: Oldeconomybuyer
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posted on
06/30/2014 2:48:08 PM PDT
by
lastchance
("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
To: Oldeconomybuyer
Ginsburg's powerful intellect Have you read her dissent? It's leftist garbage, not respectable jurisprudence. She condemns the majority decision as opening the door to establishment of religion, all the while ignoring the fact that forcing a business to act against its religious principles does IN FACT contravene the Free Exercise Clause of the First Amendment.
And the rest of her diatribe is equally fallacious. It's a stunning example of poor reasoning, which I guess is why it's held in such high esteem by the dolts at the LA Tombs.
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posted on
06/30/2014 2:57:51 PM PDT
by
IronJack
To: DanielRedfoot
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posted on
06/30/2014 2:58:00 PM PDT
by
Oldeconomybuyer
(The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
To: Oldeconomybuyer
If the LA Times is upset with a SCOTUS decision, liberty prevailed. Now THAT should be a tagline!!
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posted on
06/30/2014 4:40:27 PM PDT
by
Albion Wilde
("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
To: GeronL
“intellect”... is that what they call it?
To: Rusty0604
In polite company. Like the vapors.
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posted on
06/30/2014 6:03:54 PM PDT
by
GeronL
(Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
To: Oldeconomybuyer
The LA times isn’t fit to line birdcages.
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posted on
06/30/2014 7:38:11 PM PDT
by
Impy
(RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
To: Oldeconomybuyer
Funny.. if the state told a women.
You must get an abortion, you must be sterilized, you must use birth control.
That would interfere with her right to chose
But the left thinks it can tell the same women..
You must pay for another women abortion, you must pay for another woman's sterilization, you must pay for another women birth control.
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posted on
06/30/2014 7:58:58 PM PDT
by
tophat9000
(An Eye for an Eye, a Word for a Word...nothing more)
To: Oldeconomybuyer
She also observes that the majority's answer to allowing business owners to opt out of covering their employees' legitimate health needs is that "the general public can pick up the tab."...Got news for you, Ruth - who do you think is "picking up the tab" for all these rebates/subsidies that are going to reduce premiums in the attempt to make the general public believe they're getting cheap medical insurance - hint: it's the general public......
To: Oldeconomybuyer
Ginsburg's powerful intellect breathing down his neck as he tried to find a path to upholding the Hobby Lobby parties' attack on women's rights without expanding corporate "personhood" too much.I wonder if even the left believes their own overheated rhetoric.
Forcing employers to violate their religious faith and pay for something the government could easily provide women itself becomes an 'attack on women'.
And tens of thousands see no problem with this line of reasoning.
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posted on
07/01/2014 12:00:56 PM PDT
by
skeeter
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