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Iowa GOP replaces state party chairman
http://www.politico.com/ ^ | June 28, 2014 | JAMES HOHMANN

Posted on 06/28/2014 9:04:07 PM PDT by Whenifhow

The Iowa GOP central committee voted Saturday to fire the state party chairman and replace him with a fixture of the establishment. Danny Carroll, removed on a 14-2 no confidence vote, will be replaced by Jeff Kaufmann, formerly the Speaker Pro Tem of the state House.

The bloodless coup was widely expected after forces loyal to Gov. Terry Branstad officially seized control of the party’s governing body from close allies of Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) at a state convention earlier this month. The former chairman, A.J. Spiker, stepped down this spring and became a senior adviser to RAND PAC. Carroll is a former lobbyist for the evangelical Family Leader and supported Branstad’s primary challenger in 2010. Chad Olsen, who stepped down as the party’s executive director in May 2012 after Paul’s forces took control, will get his old job back. Cody Hoefert, from conservative northwest Iowa, replaces the co-chair, who resigned before the meeting.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: dannycarroll; election; gop; iowa; jeffkaufmann; terrybranstad; uniparty
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To: Finny; Kansas58; BlackElk; RitaOK; Norm Lenhart; SoConPubbie

Good, sound, unassailable logic supporting the position that you don’t vote for evil, no matter which party is pushing it.


81 posted on 06/30/2014 11:13:07 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Kansas58; Finny
A nuclear bomb in the hands of terrorists will kill all of us, born and unborn alike.

Single issue voters tend to use very emotional, and faulty logic to support their case and use very extreme examples to try and cover up the fallacy of their arguments.
82 posted on 06/30/2014 11:15:06 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie
In this case, the “single issue voters” are the extreme prolifers who do not care at all about national defense or the survival of the USA.
83 posted on 06/30/2014 11:17:15 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58
In this case, the “single issue voters” are the extreme prolifers who do not care at all about national defense or the survival of the USA.

Nope, the single issue voters are losers like yourself who obsfucate away all of the Progressive policies of GOP-E candidates like Mitt Romney who support not only Abortion, but the Gay Agenda, and have no idea, much less policy position, supporting limiting the size of government.

You purposefully ignore the Progressive background of people Like Mitt Romney supporting Abortion, Homosexuality, Global Warming, Taxing everything that moves, Gun Control, etc. just so you can support anyone with an 'R' next to their name.

Your approach fails consistently.
84 posted on 06/30/2014 11:35:36 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie
Wrong!
If Romney had won we would very likely have picked up another seat or two in the US Senate.
The House would have remained in Republican control.
Romney could not have done anything too liberal without pushback from Congress.
And Romney would not have allowed many of the disasters we are now facing.
85 posted on 06/30/2014 11:43:34 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58; EternalVigilance; Finny; Norm Lenhart; RitaOK; SoConPubbie; Diogenes; verga; ...
Kansas58:

A nuclear bomb in the hands of terrorists would kill SOME of us born and unborn.

You don't actually think that $$$$ obsessive Mittens (who is a LOT more pro-abortion than Israel and always has been) could have been trusted any more than Obozo to prevent terrorists acquiring (small) nuclear weapons? If so, I've got a bridge connecting Manhattan and Brooklyn and I can get it for you wholesale on a quit claim deed for small unmarked bills in sufficient quantity.

What does stopping nuclear terrorism and incineration of some of our people have to do with Mittens' never-ending search for greater profits? You are aware that he was an owner of a "trash" disposal company that provided him with oodles of lovely $$$$ for hauling away the dead babies from abortion mills? I believe Eternal Vigilance has the details. Did Bibi Netanyahu do anything like that? Hell, even Obozo never did that.

That having been said, Bibi Netanyahu is the only leader in the world, not Obozo, not the gang of sissified Wall Street/K Street types, with the balls to put a stop to Iran's nuclear weapons. If Bibi acts, as he should, the howls from Obozoites and trust fund babies alike will be deafening. In the latter case, it will probably raise the cost of doing the only thing that they believe justifies human life (theirs!): their ability to rake in profits from government and/or party connections so that they can play: Let's Make a Deal! with America's enemies. Remember that Henry "Monty Hall" Kissinger is still alive to guide them (for a price).

Whether you want to admit reality or not, there is not a meaningful dime's worth of difference between the Obozos and Clintons OTOH and the Ruling Class GOP on the other except demonstrated skill at polo. Same policies with a different Mugset. Vote for Romney becayse he has a Dudley Do-Right look about him and a BIG chin and, best of all for the GOP-E, he won't do anything different from Obozo AND, as Republican King, if elected, he will bully Congressional Republicans into mushy moderate irrelevance OR ELSE!

Then the da*ned peasants won't ever have a party to vote for with their barbarian agendas. Babies??? Guns??? Marriage??? Actual good-paying jobs??? Attending conservative churches??? Inattention to Muffie's trust fund??? I do declare!!!! REALLY???? Not while the Snobbicans control the GOP! The business of America is business and THAT is none of the peasants' concern.

If you imagine you could ever have spoken for "most conservatives," Mr. GOP Loyalist, wake up and smell the coffee. The GOP is OVER.

86 posted on 06/30/2014 2:27:48 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society: Rack 'em Danno!)
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To: BlackElk
You are delusional.

You have no leader.
You have no strategy.
You have very few followers.

You do have a mighty big ego. How has that worked for you in the past?

Any person who could possible gain the following to run as a 3rd Party candidate, on the Right, and win, is too smart to try it.

It might happen at some time in the future. I hate what happened in MS primarily because it gives trouble makers like YOU too much ammunition.

However, we are not there yet. Not even close.

87 posted on 06/30/2014 2:33:18 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58; SoConPubbie
Kansas58:

Let me guess! An "extreme pro-lifer" in your lexicon is one who says what he means and means what he says. That's sooooo embarrassing, right??? Our betters, like Mittens, and Chatsworth Worthington XXXII and Muffie and Skipper and the girls down at the Junior League and the Wall Street boodlers and the K Street corrupters know better than to take all that political rhetoric seriously. Any lie is worth telling if it protects Muffie's trust fund and puts them in charge in whole or in part, right??? Then, as usual, it is Let's Make A Deal time. And for the peasant voters? Wait until you see WHAT's behind the curtain! A crap sandwich! Oh, Biff, that is a GOOD one!

Now, what is a "moderate pro-lifer other than the accommodationist sellouts at NRLC??? Is that like having a "moderately" honest clerk handle your cash register? Or having your son marry a "moderately" monogamist young woman?

Is a "moderate" pro-lifer one who is wiling to make deals with some but not all babies' lives and agree to demand no more? Since, given your use of terms, I presume you are not an "extreme" pro-lifer but only a "moderate" one, please give us the benefit of your experience in "moderation" and how many babies you have saved. Be specific with proof. If you cared about national defense, Romney is the LAST GOP candidate to vote for. His military experience and Paul Ryan's are equal to Obozo's and Joe Biden's: NONE WHATSOEVER! Name a significant military leader who supported any of the four, complete with the reasoning. You can't.

88 posted on 06/30/2014 2:48:59 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society: Rack 'em Danno!)
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To: BlackElk
Read my profile, again, before you attack.
I believe what I believe, but I bet anything that I have done FAR more to help the prolife cause than you could ever dream of.
Save your insults for the real enemy would you?

No, to me a radical prolifer is one who would let all of us who are born DIE by electing an anti-American traitor to the White House.

The “lesser of evils” strategy is the ONLY strategy that has a chance of success, since Jesus and Mary are NEVER on the ballot for us, are they?

89 posted on 06/30/2014 2:53:01 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: BlackElk

http://stevedeace.com/news/believe/


90 posted on 06/30/2014 2:56:18 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (GOPe, be thankful I don't support the lesser of two evils, 'cause then I'd be voting Democrat.)
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To: Kansas58
The “lesser of evils” strategy is the ONLY strategy that has a chance of success...

Well, except for the fact that it's never worked yet, and that it's the exact "strategy" that got us in this mess in the first place.

New tagline...

91 posted on 06/30/2014 3:00:43 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (The greater evil's first trick is to fool you into believing it's the lesser evil.)
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To: BlackElk
It is easy to be a moral absolutist.
It is easy to be judgmental.
It is easy to be a horse's ass -— Until you have real decisions to make.

1.) You are in actual combat. There are machine gun nests on two different hills which are slaughtering your troops. You can not take out both of them, simultaneously. To choose one machine gun nest, over the other, is required. Do you sit in paralyzed fear because you can't “save all” of your men? Some will live and some will die based on YOUR decision? What will you do? Or are you a moral coward? You will obviously take out the easiest target first.

2.) You arrive at the scene of an accident. A young child suffers arterial bleeding. An elderly woman has a broken leg, with internal bleeding. An old man is suffering cardiac arrest. You are the ONLY person there. Who do you help first? Someone will live and someone will die. What will be your decision? Or are you a moral coward paralyzed by fear who will let them all die?

3.) We have the ability to cut off MILIONS of dollars in funding to pro-abortion activists, who fund pro abortion politicians, by making 3rd Trimester Abortion ILLEGAL! But you are a MORAL COWARD who would rather feel “superior” and do nothing, since you want, in THEORY, to do the impossible? WE CAN'T SAVE ALL THE BABIES!

I sincerely believe that God will scold you for your arrogance and conceit and judgmental attitude on this issue.

Your position is morally bankrupt, and it derives from PRIDE and nothing else.

92 posted on 06/30/2014 3:00:50 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58

What are you? A Liberal meme generator?


93 posted on 06/30/2014 4:03:00 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: Kansas58
Well, Praise the Lord and pass as much ammunition as you can!

I'm delusional???

I do have a big ego and won't apologize for it. My ego has worked very well in the past.

We are not winning now and we won't win until we divorce the Ruling Class Republicans, adopt thoroughly populist policies, unite those folks who are NOT Ruling Class of both parties, destroy these enemies of the American people, destroy their evil policies and make them a very disagreeable memory: Clintons, Obozos, Romneys, McCains, Terry McAwful, Haley Boss Hogg Barbour, K Street, Wall Street, and ALL of their ilk.

Of course, you don't so much mind that clearly senile Thad Cockroach has been nominated by hook or by crook so much as it bothers you (as an alleged conservative) that the primary tactics and victory of Boss Hogg Barbour to re-nominate the not so Hon. Mr. Cockroach will give "ammunition" to your conservative enemies. Got it! Surrender now! Surrender forever! Right?

This is a war of attrition. We will NEVER have the money resources of Boss Hogg. We cannot beat him and his tools in an expensive air war, paying gigantic sums to our media enemies to broadcast our propaganda. We have to depend on the far less expensive and actually more effective ground war. Doubt me? Get your pal Dole to put you in touch with Lowell Weicker, tell him someone who calls him LoLo wanted you to ask him how he was driven from the Senate in a general election in which he got about 40% of the Demonrats voting for him while losing about 2/3 of the GOP and Independents to Joe Lieberman who had previously lost a Congressional race in a district Democrat since 1958 and but for Joe's loss, ever since. Weicker cooperated by being Weicker, by attacking Reagan for attacking Libya and by going to Cuba to scuba dive with his pal Fidel Castro. You never know when the bad guys will self-destruct. You just have to be prepared and organized for ground war whenever it happens.

Instantaneous wins are not likely to be the lot of actual conservatives. Long term war of attrition is. They and you can take their $$$$ and put it where the sun shineth not. The endgame is that they lose.

You folks in Kansas once had a woman preacher (Mary Elizabeth Lease) who famously called for Kansans and other farm state folks to "Raise less corn and more hell!" William Jennings Bryan was instructive as a religious conservative who went after the interests.

There is a lot of trouble to make. You will be part of the solution or you will be part of the problem. Since you are willing to take any old POS with an R next to his name (the very definition of baby killing, marriage wrecking, gun grabbing, envirowhacko trash like Romney) as YOUR candidate, you ought to consider doing something worhwhile instead of your politics. Help an animal shelter, do some gardening, develop new strains of roses, teach poor kids to read, gather bedding and baby clothes and toys and furniture for children of mothers who decide against abortion, something worthwhile instead of a lifetime of service to the grubby greedheads who use you to control the GOP.

It WILL happen sometime in the future. Will the future pass you by?

94 posted on 06/30/2014 4:04:52 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society: Rack 'em Danno!)
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To: Norm Lenhart

I am guessing that you have accomplished NOTHING in the political world your entire life.
It shows.


95 posted on 06/30/2014 4:15:07 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58

I’m guessing you are a ‘Pro lifer” that thinks the way to fewer/no abortions is by electing people that champion abortions. I think that because you spelled out that exact ‘logic’ in your posts lately about Romney/the GOP.

Tell the class, why should someone who obviously sucks at understanding cause and effect be listened to for political advice?


96 posted on 06/30/2014 4:20:08 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: BlackElk

You are rather worthless to the cause pall, but I would rather see you as worthless than dangerous.

If you had power, you would be a loose cannon, shooting our own.

You have no power, thank God, so you are just worthless at politics.

You have gotten nobody elected.

You have not defeated any true Liberals.

You just shoot off your mouth at those who do.

Because, of course, you are so morally superior to everyone who has actually gotten their hands dirty and gotten some real work done.

I know your type. Haughty, pompous, judgmental, ungrateful to your friends and VERY helpful to our enemies.

You are the problem. Well your KIND are our problem. Thankfully your personality is so repulsive that you have few followers.


97 posted on 06/30/2014 4:20:48 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Norm Lenhart
Cause and effect?

Is Obama the most pro abortion President in history?

YES!

Did the “purist, no-compromise” wing of the GOP help elect Obama?

YES!

YOUR THINKING IS THE PROBLEM!

You do the best you can in each election by electing the lessor of evils in every election.

PERIOD! I am disgusted by you, and I wear it as a badge of honor that a politically suicidal lunatic does not like me.

You are a mess. NOBODY will follow you.

So how do you intend to win?

98 posted on 06/30/2014 4:24:36 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58

Cause and effect. When Barry ran, he had a fraction of Romneys Pro abortion creds. Romney swnt into the campaign with far greater pro abortion laws, positions and funding on his actual record. Notice anything odd?

Look Saul, the freeze and personalize your target doesn’t work when the facts are widely known. And since Barry did the majority of his damage AFTER being elected...well, like the Cheezburger cat, you haZ a problem selling your line.

Had people paid attention to his record, Barry wouldn’t be prez today. and Palin would be on deck for 2016. So your cunning plan has already been shown to be a disaster.

We knew what a mess Barry would make based on his pre-president record...and Romneys was massively worse.


99 posted on 06/30/2014 4:34:25 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: Kansas58; BlackElk
I believe what I believe, but I bet anything that I have done FAR more to help the prolife cause than you could ever dream of.

Black Elk does not like to talk about it, but he has done a tremendous amount for the pro-life movement. I will let him go into details if he likes, but you are wrong on this count.

100 posted on 06/30/2014 5:11:55 PM PDT by verga (Conservative, leaning libertarian)
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