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To: bigbob
I remain convinced that a third party could win the presidency, and use that as the springboard to end the Republican party. Perot could have done it had he not turned out to be a loony toon. He had the money, name recognition, and the people were ready for an alternative to Bush and another Democrat phony. But he imploded (that may have been his intent all along) and paved the way for Clinton.

Still, it was instructive. He was in the lead pretty quickly, before he dropped out. Now, take someone with good name recognition (Rush, Palin, Ted Cruz, Dr. Carson) and a few tens of million in startup costs, and you will start a brush fire. You can't build the infrastructure to get victories in the House and Senate in the first election cycle, but you can identify those you are allied with, the conservative wing of the GOP, and ask your supporters to vote for them in the general.

If the conservative then wins the White House, he can either force the GOP to surrender to him and let him run the GOP, and he comes in and cleans house (not likely, given the corruption of the GOP) or start a new organization with a different name and invites conservatives to join. In conservative districts and states, you'd get most GOPers to join. It would be a coalition government for a time, with the GOPe forced to go along with the conservatives or join with the Dems. Eventually, though, the GOPe would go the way of the Whigs.

That's my view of the way to proceed. If we try to work within the GOP this presidential cycle, we are going to be very disappointed, and that may open the way for another lib to be elected when people stay home. I'd rather take my chances on a conservative alternative. The GOPe hates us. They don't hate Obama. They hate us.

18 posted on 06/27/2014 10:15:31 AM PDT by Defiant (Obama is not the anti-Christ. He is Satan's John the Baptist, preparing the way.)
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To: Defiant
I remain convinced that a third party could win the presidency, and use that as the springboard to end the Republican party. Perot could have done it had he not turned out to be a loony toon. He had the money, name recognition, and the people were ready for an alternative to Bush and another Democrat phony. But he imploded (that may have been his intent all along) and paved the way for Clinton.

He wasn't a loony toon. He had a visceral hatred for Bush. He had no desire to be president. He just didn't want Bush to be president either. Seemed to have had his way too.

22 posted on 06/27/2014 11:30:47 AM PDT by zeugma (It is time for us to start playing cowboys and muslims for real now.)
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