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To: Jonty30

I don’t think any of them should be legalized, period. One of the functions of government that you see is endorsed by God in the Bible, is to go after criminals and make them fearful of continuing their crimes.

Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves” (Romans 13:1-2).

“Submit yourselves for the Lord’s sake to every authority instituted among men: whether to the king, as the supreme authority, or to governors, who are sent by him to punish those who do wrong and to commend those who do right” (1 Peter 2:13-14)


77 posted on 06/25/2014 5:25:43 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

The Forefathers, when the founded the country on Liberty, did not exempt the stupids from the freedom to make bad decisions for themselves.

Trying to save people from themselves is the fundamental reason why America is where it is today. There is no middle road about this issue, either people are allowed liberty for themselves, and be at risk of destroying themselves, or there will be no liberty for anybody.


79 posted on 06/25/2014 5:33:08 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Star Traveler
“One of the functions of government that you see is endorsed by God in the Bible, is to go after criminals and make them fearful of continuing their crimes."

Fear is the tool of tyrants and terrorists.

"Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. “


It's dogmatic baloney like this that causes me to revile religious sheep of every faith under the sun. You are like a blind photocopier of abusive history, continuing to roboticly repeat the same fanatical, abusive religious jargon that has demanded blind, unquestioned obedience to government Authoritarianism since the dark ages. An obedience to tyrannical government authorities who have murdered millions upon millions around the world. All of this blind obedience demanded under nationalistic banners of *submitting* themselves to “authorities” that they believed God had installed to power.

“The authorities that exist have been established by God.”

What utter nonsensical blather that only the Islamic fanatics such as those we now see murdering people in the middle east would accept as God's *establishment*.... Thankfully, the irrational belief in a Tyrannical Almighty is only accepted by a few radical nutjobs in the middle east. Blind, unquestioning obedience to tyranny disgusts me.

152 posted on 06/26/2014 3:28:28 AM PDT by FBD
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To: Star Traveler
“Submit yourselves for the Lord’s sake to every authority instituted among men: whether to the king, as the supreme authority, or to governors, who are sent by him to punish those who do wrong and to commend those who do right” (1 Peter 2:13-14)

Does this exempt us from submitting to governors who punish those who do right and commend those who do wrong?

Or are we to submit to them also, as they also are sent by the Lord?

158 posted on 06/26/2014 5:07:38 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Star Traveler; FBD
"Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God.“

So any authority that simply claims it is established by God I must 'submit' to?

What about Islam? It also claims to be established by God. Must I submit to it also?

How do I know what specific authority God has established in this particular case? Where in the scripture does it say small time hoods must be persecuted by throwing grenades at their relatives?

Am I supposed to submit to that authority? Simply because you proclaim it to be 'divine' by your interpretation on an internet forum???

206 posted on 06/26/2014 5:50:33 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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