Posted on 06/24/2014 1:53:52 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
All of this was known years ago.
Will the White House wave it off for 24 months, or 36 months, a date to be announced later?
The US GDP is right about zero this year. The employer mandate would turn it negative in a hurry.
I think that employers will need more employees to do the job under Obamacare since they have to cut hours to accommodate it.
Is this where Amnesty comes in to expand the labor pool????
I should add republicans, too, since they now own the ACA as well.
Kinda late for that, I think.
They had might as well implement it and get it over with. It is not like anyone is talking repeal anymore.
I had dinner with a couple of friends last week. He is a self employed photographer, she is a dental hygenicist. She used to pay $150/month for medical insurance, and her husband paid a few hundred a month more. They have both been notified that their insurance will be cancelled because of obamacare.
Guess how much it will cost to replace the same thing under obamacare for them?
$13,000 per month! I am not making that up.
This thing is going to crush the middle class and make them dependent. The health care system is going to go into convulsions. It is an epic disaster.
After the election, those covered by their employers (the bulk of the population) are supposed to be thrown into this catastrophe en masse.
The original plan was to blame the chaos and suffering on capitalism and greedy insurance companies, and drive through nationalized health care to “solve the problem”. We will see if it flies, or if they have overreached and suffer a massive backlash. Either way, the health care system is scheduled to crash first, in 2015.
LOL, lol, lol, hhhhhhhaaawwwhaaa.
Ocare is bad, but I’ve not read a number that high anywhere. Because Ocare requires everyone to have a fairly high end policy, that is where the $13k a year comes from that I read about the most. Frankly, this might have worked if they pushed major medical policies but I don’t see how this mess is going to work. That is what happens when the two culprits that caused the problem, gov and insurance companies, take it upon themselves to solve it.
Not $1,300 but THIRTEEN THOUSAND a month? And then there are deductibles, co-payments and on and on...
I was pretty shocked when I heard $13,000 per MONTH! I assumed that people were going to see rates doubled and tripled.
I believe these folks to be sincere, because they are not political, and it just came up in a general conversation while we were catching up. $13,000 per month was for the gold option, which would cover the specialists that the husband is currently seeing. He is about 50 and has had multiple health problems.
I think we will see the young get milked for more money, while the old get shafted with less services. Generic antibiotics and pain pills, the bum’s rush and assisted suicide.
The IPAB will determine that it is just not cost effective to do a bunch of diagnostic screenings, because it only results in higher costs to treat the identified disorders.
Are you sure? This sounds like a possible annual cost - not monthly. Do any of them have pre-existing conditions which would cause them to be rated? I live in VA, am between 60-65 in relatively good (not perfect) health and I got a decent policy for about $400/month from Anthem Blue Cross.
“That brings me to the first thing Obama and his team need to do: Be honest.”
Bwahahaha. Delusional.
Obamacare sucks!! I am living proof of that.
I can't wait till all the union Democrats get to feel the agony I have had to suffer.
Oops! We made a mistake. Look at that, the only way to fix it is single payer...Mission accomplished.
For later......(((ping)))
Yes Randita, $13,000 per month is what they told me. That is for the gold plan, that would allow them to continue with the doctors they have. I asked for clarification to be sure, because it was so shocking. The lady’s opinion was that they were being denied, and that the huge number was just to cover the insurance company, so they could say they offered it.
I don’t know what they are going to do, because the conversation shifted, but the guy said that he had just had five teeth pulled and replaced before his policy expires, so he was just getting back on solid food. They did not say how much it would be for a silver or bronze plan, but they will no longer be able to see the specialists who were treating the husband.
A year or two back, the husband was laid up for a long time, unable to work, with some infection he contracted overseas which left him with respiratory, autoimmune and neurological issues.
It may turn out that we end up with an increase in the uninsured, as people are priced out and have to pay the fine on top of losing their coverage.
We live in VA as well (Northern). If your medical insurance is connected with your employer or previous employer (if retired), you may be among the bulk of the population that doesn’t get hit until the employer mandate kicks in next year.
But they won’t. Waivers.
B.S. Gold plan premiums through the state exchange for my wife and myself, age 59, would be about $2,400/month total.
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