Posted on 06/22/2014 11:28:54 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
Early on in sobriety I met a young black kid with needle tracks up and down both arms. One night at a meeting he said “I hear people say ‘Fake it til you make it.’ I ain’t doin’ that because I’m afraid when I die God’s gonna’ say ‘Well, you was fakin” it so you didn’t make it.’”
I see nothing wrong with it.
I lived some of my early Christian years in a church that had Keswick overtones, and more than once I heard someone say something like, “I made Christ Lord of my life.” Rather illogical.
Wow.
I’ve never taken “Let go and let God” to mean what many are saying on here - that there is some two-tiered understanding of salvation.
I’ve always understood it to mean that we are not to concern ourselves with the results of our efforts, but to let God take care of that. We are called to obedience, not so much results.
A story I heard once illustrates this:
God came to a new believer one day.
“What can I do for you, Father? How can I serve you?”, the believer asked.
God pointed to a large boulder. “I want you to push that rock”.
The believer immediately ran to the rock and began to push against it with all of his might. No matter what he did, the rock did not move. He looked around and God was not visible to him anymore. He returned to pushing on the rock.
He continued to push against the rock hour after hour, day after day, for many years. He pushed when it was hot, cold, stormy, clear. He pushed with all of his might every day.
One day, years later, God came to him again. “How are you, my friend?”, He asked.
“I am frustrated and I am angry”, said the believer. “You told me to push on this rock and I have done so. I have been faithful and pushed with all of my might. And the rock has not moved even a little bit. Why would you give me such an impossible task?”
God replied, “I did not give you an impossible task. I asked you to push the rock. You have been faithful and obedient and have done as I asked.” He paused. “I did not ask you to move the rock, only to push.”
“Now, I will move the rock”.
I think that’s more of the meaning I take from the phrase, “Let go and let God”. We do what we are asked and let God take care of the results.
C
Bingo. I made Him Lord.
(means... “shhh.... I’m Lord”)
The Reformation needs a reformation.
I became a Christian at 21 not coming from a Christian home, and entered the ministry after college. All my training and study was Keswick-based.....and my ministry. I have studied all of the teachers mentioned initially in this article. There is much that is true and good in it.
But at the core is a key error, I believe. It indeed gives man credit for some level of performance. And it does often divide believers into two groups: those who know they are “failures”, defeated, and cannot make the grade; and those who think they are indeed “fully committed” and sold out to the Lord - and who become proud of their ‘spirituality’, and better Christians than others. i.e., Christian Pharisees. ref. Luke 18:9.
Pride - spiritual pride - is the greatest sin of most Christians who think they are spiritual. (What is the most lacking single element of the character of the Lord Jesus in Christian leaders today? Humility.)
No one ever completely surrenders to the Lord. Only Jesus did. It is a life-long process, being conformed to His image, knowing Him more, yielding more to Him as we learn his love and amazing grace.
We never “arrive” at any one state that changes us. If we walk in His grace and love, we change daily - though that cannot be measured or seen. He is the one who changes us, transforms us, as we come to know Him more and more.
It was at the end of Paul’s life that he wrote Philippians 3:8 - 13. His goal from the day of his conversion had not changed.
Having this attitude (Phil. 2:1-8) is one of them greatest missing elements of modern Christianity - in believers of all stripes and colors.
I think of it more like, "God can move mountains, but you better bring a shovel."
Hardly know what to make of this one. Is the author a Christian?
Makes about as much sense as an argument over whether one larger angel or two smaller angels can dance on the head of a pin...
Then again, my mother had the gift of faith - which is more than the grace of faith all Christians have to believe. When she prayed about something, that was it, done deal. She laid it down and walked away - what this author would call "let go and let God."
Most of us tend to pray about something, let go, then pick it up again, pray again, lay it down - on and on.
But mom did not doubt God. She didn't worry, fear or complain. Done deal. Many miracles happened in and around my mother's life. Healing miracles, of course, and more.
So, yeah, the author's position sounds very strange to me.
We are grateful for her example and that you honor her.
Thank you for your encouragements, dear aposiopetic!
Unfortunately, it sounds like you aren’t letting go if you have to keep repeating it.
I think it is less of “turn it over to God” but more like “the lilies of the field”. Don’t worry about what you will eat or what you will wear (like the Pharisees did) but trust that God knows what He is doing.
Too often, turning things over to God becomes “hoping for the outcome you desire without working for it” or “assigning God a task like He is your employee”. I hear this a lot in urban gospel music where God is going to pay your light bill or end your money troubles.
It fits with your idea of giving it to God and then picking it up again. You never really let go. If you trust God to pay your light bill and it didn’t get paid, did you really trust Him?
“One can only hope to sin far far less. “
God gives us grace to forgive us for our transgressions.
It’s up to us to train our minds and control our thoughts. Some days I can do it and other days, distracted, my brain ends up in the gutter.
Daily circumstances seem to be the biggest distraction in contrast to outright spiritual attacks on specific weaknesses—which do happen and reinforces in me the acknowledgement that we live in a spiritual world.
The timing of those attacks illuminates that I’m doing the right thing. It’s even humorous at times to see the enemy flailing against the fortress.
Then other times, especially when I’m tired, I leave the gate wide open and get pounded. Oops. Teach me not to do that again.
Addendum to my prior post:
“Teach me not to do that again.”
And again, and again, and again.......
““I made Christ Lord of my life.” Rather illogical.”
yea! Who’d ever want to do that!
The sweetest words you'll ever hear: "My good, and faithful servant."
Talking about this subject is fraught with troubles. For instance, talking about sinning as mortal man can be very frustrating. We all do it. It can get you down and cause you to quit trying. I think it’s best to just do your best and not try to keep score. When you fall, simply get up, dust yourself off, and go back into the mode of being as good as you can be. This process should not cause you to be hyper, agitated, or finding yourself frustrated. You simply live as good as you can, and accept Jesus sacrifice to make up the difference.
Paul said something to the effect that he failed daily. None the less he kept trying. I think that’s what we need to do.
The point I’m trying to touch on, is that we should not work ourselves up over failure. Jesus doesn’t expect us to obsess on it to the point it impacts our health. We merely do the best we can in our everyday life, being cheerful and the best examples of the Christ-like lifestyle we can be.
It sounds as if you miss the subtlety in my remarks.
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