We had to penetrate into that world, and bring the modern world into it, we need to maintain that opening.
We can’t leave those people alone to bubble in their own oil wealth, 21st century technology, nuclear weapons and totally isolated, dictator controlled 7th century peasants, isolation.
I agree we can’t ‘leave them alone’ per se. And for the reasons you listed. On the other hand (she wore a glove...) we have to make a decision as a somewhat civilized planet.
Now of course the planet wants to pretend as it has been that the ROP really is peaceful but we all know they arent. The leaders know they arent. The leadership of the liberals certainly know it which is why they use them as a tool to keep their own hands ‘clean’. The leadership knows the people know and vice versa.
EVERYBODY KNOWS that everybody knows. Almost Rumsfeldian.
And this speaks directly to your post Ansel, about the ‘unspeakables’. Everyone knows but refuse to speak up lest they be excommed for their blasphemy. This will continue until several American/Russian/Chinese/Euro cities are blasted and smoking hulks. Because each country will scream about Iraq wars and Bush and kick the can as a power play against the attacked country of the hour. The liberals will of course foment more war by their psuedo pacifist BS while letting the Muzzies do their dirty work and people will die.
So what to do? Well as you said, we cannot simply leave them to their devices as their devices are highly explosive. But we can’t eradicate them because you’ll never get the planet to go along with it. And honestly, any quarantine agreed to by a collection of states would be quickly undermined by several of the ‘guard’ states as all such small scale Middle East blockades have been thusfar.
So we are going to die. For a long time. We are going to constantly make excuses and fight amongst our selves/with liberals and the muzzies, cavemen with guns they are, will continue to to prove our mental and ‘spiritual’ weakness simply by conducting business as usual.
Ultimately I forsee a scenario very much like Dan Simmons Time Traveler story which every freeper should read. I have recommended it for a long time now.
http://www.dansimmons.com/news/message/2006_04.htm
I really don’t think we turn this around until we as a people, meaning all the non Muslims do one simple thing. And until we do that one simple thing there will be terror and death and hand wringing and civil wars over it and all the doom and gloom bad things one would imagine. What is it?
We need to believe what they say when they say we either surrender and convert or die.
Thats all it will take. When people ...believe... the Muslims more than the liberals, we will turn it around and fast. On every street in every city. When we have felt enough pain and death, and start kicking ourselves in the ass for our stupidity, When we do to the liberals what they do to us, muslims will be eradicated from non Muslim lands and terminated with extreme prejudice when they stick their nose NEAR their borders.
Within those borders it WILL look like the 7th century they are fond of because it will have been blasted back to the 7th century during the years or decades of actual WW1 style trench war that will occur prior.
TLDR version: Dealing with Muslims in the civilized sense is ultimately a losing proposition as is trying to teach pigs ballet. One is not capable of the other. It has always been so and always will be so. Popes knew this. Kings knew this. Churchill knew this. Centuries of inbreeding have not left us with a sane debate partner and the cult/war plan of Islam seals the deal.