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Texas Gay Fathers Denied Legal Recognition of Twin Sons Born Through Surrogate
Christian Post ^ | 06/20/2014 | Stoyan Zaimov

Posted on 06/20/2014 10:09:04 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Two gay fathers in Texas have been denied legal recognition of their twin sons, born through a surrogate mother, because same-sex marriage is not legal in the state. While the fathers are petitioning to be placed on the birth certificates, conservative group Family Research Council has argued that the case should not serve as a "back-door" for redefining marriage.

"Family Research Council supports the parental rights of anyone who is a biological parent, regardless of their marital or relationship status," Peter Sprigg, senior fellow at FRC, told The Christian Post in an email on Thursday.

"However, we believe that second-parent adoption, or joint adoption by two adults when neither is the biological parent, should be limited to parents who are legally married. In Texas, this would exclude same-sex couples."

Sprigg added: "Cases such as the one in Texas should not be used as a back-door method of redefining marriage, nor of affirming parental arrangements that deliberately deny, and deprive a child of, the benefits of having both a mother and a father."

The parents, Jason Hanna and Joe Riggs, fathered Lucas and Ethan, who were born in April through a surrogate, The Huffington Post reported earlier this week.

While each man is the biological father of one of the children, they have not been placed on the birth certificates, and have not been allowed to co-adopt each other's biological child. Only the surrogate mother is on the certificates, but she is not their biological mother, since embryos were transferred to her.

"As of right now in Texas two men cannot be on the birth certificate," Hanna explained in an interview on SiriusXM Progress.

"So our attorney followed the letter of the law. We petitioned the court. We had DNA testing there [in court] and petitioned the judge to ultimately remove the surrogate mother from the birth certificate, who has no biological ties to the boys. We would like each biological dad to be placed on the birth certificate of our own son, and then ultimately proceed to the second-parent adoption. The entire petition was denied."

The judge's decision has been criticized by pro-gay groups such as the Family Equality Council, with Executive Director Gabriel Blau stating that the judge "was wrong on moral, ethical, and legal grounds."

The gay couple, legally married in Washington, D.C., last July, said they are worried if something were to happen to one of them and adoption was denied to the remaining partner.

"The state could come in and separate these two brothers … We want to reiterate how important it is for a state to recognize each family, whether it's same-sex or opposite-sex, and really to ensure everyone has equal protection from the state," Hanna said.

Riggs added that they were "shocked" when the Texas judge said she could not grant their request under law, since they had heard of other gay couples in Texas that had been successful in their petition.

In February, San Antonio-based federal Judge Orlando Garcia struck down Texas' ban on same-sex marriage, but due to an ongoing appeal process, gay couples are not yet allowed to get married.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: gaymarriage; homosexualadoption; homosexualagenda; homosexuality; surrogate; texas
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To: Jim from C-Town

I think they would be half-brothers is the same woman donated the eggs.


21 posted on 06/20/2014 10:45:52 AM PDT by Andy'smom (How many more acts of love can we take?)
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To: SeekAndFind

I am a Christian. I don’t believe in same-sex marriage. I don’t hate homosexuals. I believe that’s the stance of 99.9% of Christians. The title of this article is asking for trouble.


22 posted on 06/20/2014 10:46:17 AM PDT by woweeitsme
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To: Jim from C-Town
They don't want them in the sense that you and I as straight people would want a child. I can't see how they could, their world view is disordered.

But I agree with you. I would not want my sons spending the night at their house at any age. It might be true that they would not molest their own child I doubt that holds true for other peoples kids.

23 posted on 06/20/2014 10:47:15 AM PDT by defconw (LUTFA!)
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To: woweeitsme

RE: The title of this article is asking for trouble.

Trouble for who? Can you elaborate?


24 posted on 06/20/2014 10:48:37 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Imagine being the poor kid who has a mans name down as “Mother” (or “parnet 2” with no mother at all on his birth certificate.

Imagine the twisted selfish men who would do this to a child.


25 posted on 06/20/2014 10:49:57 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: defconw
Plus they are not twins, as twins have the same DNA

Only identical twins do, Think about it, twin brothers and sisters obviously do not have identical DNA. Also, does anyone find it frightening that they just happened to get two boys?

26 posted on 06/20/2014 10:50:48 AM PDT by sharkhawk (Mr Gorbachev, tear down this wall.)
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To: silverleaf

RE: Imagine being the poor kid who has a mans name down as “Mother”

Hey, if Heather can have two mommies, then Junior can have two daddies /s


27 posted on 06/20/2014 10:51:50 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

“Denied legal recognition” of WHAT?

This article is gibberish.


28 posted on 06/20/2014 10:52:20 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: Viennacon
Why is it legal for a woman to surrogate for ANYBODY? The total effect is to split parenthood up into garbled fragments:

Etc. etc.

NONE of this is to the benefit of the child, or geared toward securing a child's natural right to derive his identity, kinship network, economic support and nurturance from his own natural father and mother.

It's all centered around adults' desires and not children's needs.

29 posted on 06/20/2014 10:52:58 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("There's no point winning an Oxford debate if the other side wins everything else." - Mark Steyn)
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To: sharkhawk

Well at the time I was thinking that if each “father” fertilized an egg from a diferent woman and then they placed both eggs in another woman, that they could not be twins. I missed a step some where. But that’s OK because this is just plain wrong!


30 posted on 06/20/2014 10:54:21 AM PDT by defconw (LUTFA!)
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To: defconw
There is no question in my mind as to the fact that they would and will molest these children.

We have got to stop sugar coating this. Homosexuals by definition are sexual deviants. They turn their nose, and anus, up to conventional social behavior. They have no compunction doing things on a regular basis that normal people would never do. It is a small step from homosexual activity to ephebophilia and pedophilia.

These people are sick. They are mentally ill and always have been. Simply because the Liberals in the APA said they are not mentally ill doesn't mean a damn thing. They say that biological sex is alterable but sexual preference is not changeable. The APA is as crazy as any of their patients.

31 posted on 06/20/2014 10:59:04 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: greene66

Well...

Where do you think lawyers come from?


32 posted on 06/20/2014 10:59:19 AM PDT by pfony1 (Add just 6 GOP Senators and we "bury" Harry)
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To: Jim from C-Town

Now the question is, why do we allow this? I know it’s rhetorical.


33 posted on 06/20/2014 11:02:00 AM PDT by defconw (LUTFA!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I feel sorry for the twins having to be born into that kind of mess. Prayers up.


34 posted on 06/20/2014 11:05:50 AM PDT by dragonblustar ( Psalm 103, Psalm 37:7, Ephesians 6:12)
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To: sharkhawk
I am sure that it was by design. They used donated eggs. Where they got them is a mystery, but if a woman could be prostituted to use her uterus for a price, I am sure women have no problem using their eggs for a quick buck.

They had the eggs inseminated by some Dr. Frankenstein in a lab and once they had male Zygotes they had them implanted in a women, for a price. Every thing was for a price and to them it is all worth it.

They get to flaunt their homo-nonsense, They get to make legal precedent and they get to have two sexual slaves in a short decade for their perverted pleasure and probably to be swapped around with their perverted Homosexual friends.

35 posted on 06/20/2014 11:06:05 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Jim from C-Town
They are fraternal twins from what I can tell. They each had an embryo they fertilized implanted in the woman.

Actually, they'd be more like step-fraternal twins, as they have different fathers. (Assuming both eggs came from the same woman.) If the eggs were different, then they wouldn't be related at all.
36 posted on 06/20/2014 11:18:24 AM PDT by Svartalfiar
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To: SeekAndFind

Beware. These poor children will never be normal.


37 posted on 06/20/2014 11:32:30 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: SeekAndFind

Whatever else these characters might be, they are not “fathers.”


38 posted on 06/20/2014 11:40:09 AM PDT by madprof98
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To: SeekAndFind
While each man is the biological father of one of the children, they have not been placed on the birth certificates, and have not been allowed to co-adopt each other's biological child. Only the surrogate mother is on the certificates, but she is not their biological mother, since embryos were transferred to her.

Doing this to a child is evil, pure evil. The kids should be taken away from these vile men and placed with a real family.

39 posted on 06/20/2014 11:43:30 AM PDT by madprof98
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To: SeekAndFind

Sorry...wrong thread!!


40 posted on 06/20/2014 11:45:19 AM PDT by woweeitsme
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