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Pope's View on Legalizing Drugs: Just Say No (Francis Condemns Legalization)
AP/ABC ^ | Jun 20, 2014 | NICOLE WINFIELD

Posted on 06/20/2014 9:08:47 AM PDT by xzins

Pope Francis condemned the legalization of recreational drugs as a flawed and failed experiment as he lent his voice Friday to a debate that is raging from the United States to Uruguay.

Francis told delegates attending a Rome drug enforcement conference that even limited steps to legalize recreational drugs "are not only highly questionable from a legislative standpoint, but they fail to produce the desired effects."

Likewise, Francis said, providing addicts with drugs offered only "a veiled means of surrendering to the phenomenon."

"Let me state this in the clearest terms possible," he said. "The problem of drug use is not solved with drugs!"

Francis has described drug addiction as evil and met addicts on several occasions. When he was archbishop of Buenos Aires, he devoted much of his pastoral care to addicts.

To reject illegal drugs, he said, "one has to say 'yes' to life, 'yes' to love, 'yes' to others, 'yes' to education, 'yes' to greater job opportunities.

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: drugs; francis; pope; wod
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To: HiTech RedNeck

141 posted on 06/20/2014 8:34:44 PM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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To: OneWingedShark; Mrs. Don-o
Rand Paul knows something about libertarianism and the pressures of them to have him come back to them, when he was trying to get into the Senate he distanced himself from them, something that he has reversed after winning the office.

Rand Paul: "My opponents call me libertarian but I'm pro-life."

142 posted on 06/20/2014 8:53:48 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: narses

Please don’t bury the thread with your oversize spam cartoons.


143 posted on 06/20/2014 8:54:58 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: ansel12

Really? You want to tell me what to post? LOL!


144 posted on 06/20/2014 8:56:06 PM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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To: narses

Why not respond to the posters instead of posting the same tired giant, spam?


145 posted on 06/20/2014 9:00:20 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: ansel12

Why not?


146 posted on 06/20/2014 9:10:39 PM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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To: narses

I suppose you depend on it in some way since it is compulsive, but you could try actual responses instead, or even reduce their size if you can’t form an actual response.


147 posted on 06/20/2014 9:16:27 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: ansel12

You are clueless.


148 posted on 06/20/2014 9:26:56 PM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
If you ever actually saw the love of God in action you’d realize... you’ve been doing things the wrong way all along. You’ve been trying to impose through tyranny what freedom was wooing humanity to embrace through love.

BUMP.

A big beautiful bump. WELL SAID.

149 posted on 06/20/2014 11:25:16 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: xzins
Sorcery is obviously referred to in the context of mediums, necromancers, false prophets, magicians, etc. People who misuse the tools He gave us for lies and personal gain. http://www.openbible.info/topics/sorcery

I'm referring to using natural plants for therapeutic and legitimate research purposes that benefit all mankind.

You honestly believe God intended us to not even touch these plants for any purpose? Even poison oak, poison ivy and stinging nettle have proven to be valuable.

150 posted on 06/21/2014 4:30:26 AM PDT by varyouga
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To: varyouga

There is medicinal use or there is manipulative use.

There is no recreational use.

Each use you have mentioned is medicinal — which I have already stated is acceptable.


151 posted on 06/21/2014 4:53:39 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: narses

Well for a supposed member of a church that says it is based on the Holy Spirit in some manner, you sure are full of self congratulatory pride.

That will get you nowhere. I could say “actually, you” to most of your accusations, in fact, but there is a time when pearls must cease to be cast.


152 posted on 06/21/2014 5:31:05 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: narses

You are self congratulatory and you kind of deserve ansel12. 2 peas in a pod. God has just brought you a mirror.


153 posted on 06/21/2014 5:32:10 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: varyouga

And more particularly about sorcery in the New Testament sense, it is about uses that are intended to reach the evil side of the spiritual world. Trips, as we would call them today.

If a medicine could help you relate to God in a more useful way (useful to His glorification), it would be a good medicine. But most great mystics don’t use medicinal substances to go where they go.


154 posted on 06/21/2014 5:37:40 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

155 posted on 06/21/2014 6:55:11 AM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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To: OneWingedShark; ansel12

Thanks!! I always thought so.


156 posted on 06/21/2014 7:36:18 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("If I were still trying to please people, I would not be a servant of Christ." - Galatians 1:10)
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To: HiTech RedNeck; ansel12

This needs a courtesy ping to ansel12. Da rules.


157 posted on 06/21/2014 7:40:01 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("If I were still trying to please people, I would not be a servant of Christ." - Galatians 1:10)
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To: narses
Mom Wants A Joint
158 posted on 06/21/2014 8:08:43 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: xzins
There is medicinal use or there is manipulative use.

Not all manipulative use is wrong; humans are, at their core, manipulators (in the sense we use tools).

159 posted on 06/21/2014 9:34:00 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: ansel12
I have sure known plenty of people who avoid or stopped using drugs, or associating with drug users, because of the laws.

The inherent harms of drugs were a minor or non-consideration? Really?

I have sure known plenty of people who avoid or stopped using drugs, or associating with drug users, because of the laws.

Then I can only say that in my opinion most Americans are not as dullwitted as the people you've known.

It isn’t dull witted to avoid trying pot, or to stop using it, or to cut off social association with post users, to avoid problems with laws and the resulting damage to reputation and careers, and employment.

It is dullwitted to set the inherent harms of drugs as a minor or non-consideration.

Shouldn’t you wait until that makes sense, to post it on a thread? To just blurt it out for no reason or context, looks weird.

Nice try. Context restored - in which it makes perfect sense. Any other clumsy games you'd like to try to play?

160 posted on 06/21/2014 9:46:26 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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