Posted on 06/18/2014 7:22:53 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
Ah... no, not buying. Just like the Ruskie subs are sooo much better than ours, BS.
When was the last ‘dogfight’ between real combatants? Korea?
With long range radar and self guided missiles, a pilot might never even see his enemy.....................
So the “author” of this piece ends it with talking about the F22 and then deftly sidesteps the effect or should I say, lack of effect the missiles would have on a F22.
How quaint...simulators are one thing and can be manipulated any number of ways...let’s put them up against each other in Red Flag, no holds barred...no rules, just fight.
That is where the truth lies...
Command and Control is criticial in air combat. The pilot that sees the enemy first is usually the victor. CC is best used to position the pilots into that envelope.
IMO the most important factor is the pilot's skills and autonomous decision making. In that arena we have had a clear advantage after what we learned in Vietnam.
Frank, you say..........?
So, when do we start adding Trust Vectoring to our F-15’s?
And if an opponent only has one good maneuver in his bag of tricks... how long will it take to develop a counter to that? How long to set up a scene that entices the opponet to make his move, to his ultimate destruction?
The historic gamechanger has been quantity over quality. The Russians have always claimed that "Quantity has a quality of it's own".
A puny number of F-22s against hundreds of inferior planes will still lose. It just takes time.
Put it up against a Block 52 F-16.
We did. In 2008. Here is one F-15C pilot's debrief of how the SU-30MKI fared: YouTube part 1 (10 minutes): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2siH9W5P4E
YouTube part 2 (10 minutes): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfXBoeV86Yo
Concurring with your observation... are there not other modes available in the weapon system that allows the pilot to acquire the enemy target without being susceptible to the doppler related phenomenon referred to as clutter notch?
If you were a betting man, would you take 10 Su-30s with the Russian/Indian/Chinese electronic support or 4 F-22s with AWACs/JSTARs/F-18 Growlers? My money would be on most of the 10 SU-30s being shot down with no casualties to the F-22s.
I’m thinking a wingman with enough offset would have the opponent cold - not lost in a zero range rate bin.
Let’s hope so. Sounds realistic. Benefit would be to not have to change radar modes... Just take the opponent out.
Yet, there was a plane that had close combat modes as part of the system that did not use doppler mode. Pilot could switch instantly to it from other radar modes as well. Hope that F-15 has it.
I am not a fighter pilot, so I am not qualified to opine.
HST, I’d like to think that USAF, Navy and Marine Corps fighter pilots are the most highly motivated and best trained pilots in the world. AND, our C4I2 - Command, Control, Communications, Computers, Intelligence, and Interoperability - capabilities are unsurpassed.
Given those factors, I think we win.
HST, the longer Ophonybama is in office, the weaker we will become.
Vietnam. And Gulf War I.
That thing is a strafe-rag at low energy when doing it’s ‘stop in mid-air’ or cobra thing. . .fighter pilots would be more at risk from laughing at that ‘shoot me now’ maneuver than anything else.
Sheesh. . .people that should know better are constantly oo’ing and ah’ing over some silly airshow maneuver. Only thing that maneuver demonstrates is the russian’s finally overcame their high-AOA low-speed tendency to generate compressor stalls under those conditions.
Outstanding de-brief video.
Bookmarked.
Thanks.
F-15s are falling apart from age and use, do you really think Hussein would spend a dime to upgrade them?
The F4 Phantom in Vietnam had radar and missiles that could take out a plane from beyond visual range. And no guns.
Then they were given rules of engagement which prohibited them from firing unless they had visual confirmation of what they were shooting at.
Never underestimate how badly the rules of engagement that your own government imposes on you can cripple your combat effectiveness. Look at Afghanistan.
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