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To: Political Junkie Too
The 17th amendment didn't change the voting power of a state in the Senate

Sure it did. It completely eliminated the voting power of the states. Now only the people get to vote for Senators. The states have no representation at all.

Equal suffrage, equal representation, equal voting, all mean the same thing

Can you find a dictionary which agrees with that? Suffrage and representation are completely different things.

46 posted on 06/14/2014 11:50:41 AM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: SeeSharp
We are splitting hairs.

This is a red-herring argument. The supposed conflict between the 17th Amendment and Article V is a non-issue.

Even if the argument is one of varying state legislative control over how the Senator votes between those desiring to choose their Senator and those ratifying the popular election of Senators, there is nothing to stop a rogue Senator in either case.

One can argue that the threat of not renewing a Senator's seat in the next term is stronger in the former case, but that is no guarantee that a Senator will actually vote differently. Once there, the Senator remains for six years to vote as he or she pleases.

-PJ

50 posted on 06/14/2014 12:06:56 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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