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Obama claims the 'world is less violent' than ever as Iraq, Ukraine crumble
Washington Examiner ^ | 6/12/14 | Ashe Schow

Posted on 06/12/2014 10:30:22 AM PDT by Nachum

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To: Norm Lenhart
And then you act with purpose....yes...purpose ;)

you mean your Special Purpose?

41 posted on 06/12/2014 11:03:15 AM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Unless we become atomized, the whole planet, people will pass stories of what happened to America and how it happened. 5000, 1000, 500 million years later we know what happened to dinaosaurs, barbarian tribes and mummy kings.

As long as people exist, the story of America’s fall will endure. Some way, some how.


42 posted on 06/12/2014 11:04:15 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: TADSLOS

YES! I discovered what my special Purpose was!

Haven’t seen that in years!


43 posted on 06/12/2014 11:07:33 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: Nachum

The Messiah has spoken!

I tell you what, every single time this guy opens his mouth, he spouts off something more nonsensical than the time before. He’s gotten worse than Plugs even!


44 posted on 06/12/2014 11:07:36 AM PDT by FamiliarFace
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To: Nachum

45 posted on 06/12/2014 11:24:20 AM PDT by pabianice (LINE)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

“879 days to go! Will America survive?” Well,that’s only about 880 too many.


46 posted on 06/12/2014 11:31:30 AM PDT by oldtech
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To: Norm Lenhart

Norm, the sad thing is it will be told filtered by one of two mindsets.

The U.S. was good and evil prevailed.

The U.S. was evil and finally got what it deserved.

Only the West will tell it like the first way.

Yes we’ll be talked about as long as man talks about such things.

Who will write the stories...

Over 50% of the people who voted, thought Obama was great. That’s in our own country, when the evidence is in.

Imagine people getting it right hundreds of years from now. I don’t know bud. Doesn’t look good to me.


47 posted on 06/12/2014 12:10:12 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: DoughtyOne

All throughout history the victor tells the story. But the world does not always believe the victor. the story of the losers always come to light. And in time, history sorts lie from truth. Always.


48 posted on 06/12/2014 12:17:39 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: PATRIOT1876

and found a word to rhyme with orange...

now work on silver and purple...


49 posted on 06/12/2014 1:05:15 PM PDT by gnickgnack2 (QUESTION obama's AUTHORITY)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Norm, I agree that some folks will see the truth, if the truth is presented. The story of our founding is not being taught to students today. If it is, it is told from a world view that White Men set up a system to benefit them only. It’s very ugly.

I’m not convinced our story gets told the way Western Civilization has been willing to do it in the past.

With the U.N., Marxist, and Islamic forces at work, who knows how much of the world’s populace will really grasp what our nation was all about. Will 10%, 5%, or less of future humanity get it? I’m not sure.

Look at the people in our own nation who don’t get it now. That can only get worse when the U. S. declines.

We could be looking forward to a time when 90% of the world’s populace would be unable to see the U. S. in a good light.

The entities I’ve already mentioned, can’t now.


50 posted on 06/12/2014 1:56:09 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: DoughtyOne

All the leftist political tyrants fall as do their followers. But we still know the truth of Nero. Of Cesar. The Pharroahs. In between, there have been many attempts to destroy knowledge. Muslims sacked and burned many libraries for example. Nazi/Soviets eraced people, places and mountains of data.

but we still know. the truth found its way through.


51 posted on 06/12/2014 2:02:24 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: DoughtyOne

Don’t forget Chicago.


52 posted on 06/12/2014 2:41:18 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Nachum

LIEberals LIE!

Ophonybama is a LIEberal!

Ophonybama is a LIAR!


53 posted on 06/12/2014 4:38:59 PM PDT by Taxman
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To: Vinylly
Not to mention Syria and Afghanistan as the Taliban get stronger and sneaking cells across the border into the US.<<

hell!..our border is the most porous border in the WORLD right now!..Even the worst 3rd world countries have more security then we do!......3rd world kids could drive tanks across the border and the Nobama administration would call it “humanitarian”!

54 posted on 06/12/2014 5:30:34 PM PDT by M-cubed
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To: Norm Lenhart

Norm, I agree with your premise, that truth found a way through. Let me explain my thoughts on human civilization as it relates to Christianity.

I believe this old world will be cleansed at some point. When sin has had it’s chance to be proven or discredited as the best policy, God will step in.

For this to happen, I believe the world had to shrink. I believe that word needed to be able to travel the planet in moments. Once that was done, there could come a time when troubled times would happen in full sights of the world’s inhabitants, and choices could be made in real time.

It has also been my premise that the United States was the last real testing ground. Here was a nation that set limits on it’s government and gave power to the people. It was a grand experiment, but now we have seen how corrupted the process has become. We have a president the likes of Obama, and a situation where our nation is being betrayed across the board, by Obama, the Senate, Congress, and a myriad of government agencies. The experiment has failed.

There isn’t going to be another United States. There is no expansive region for it to grown in.

When the U. S. is gone, Marxism, Communism, Islam, these dominate. The Western world isn’t dying, it’s surrendering, committing suicide.

So while I can agree with you that small pockets of understanding will always exist, for all intents and purposes the lights will have gone out on decent thinking for this planet. All people will live in a police state.

Look at our own nation. We’re practically in a police state now. Our citizens are so addled, that they can’t see Obama for what he is, or recognize sound policy for what it is.

If our own citizens can’t see it, our nation is doomed. And if it is doomed, what entity promotes a sound government? On planet earth, the Western Civilization will have died, and only evil will remain. And if you think it’s bad now, just wait.

I don’t think this world lasts much longer if the Christian God is real, and His word is truth.

He will at some point put an end to evil. I think it’s sooner than later. Evil has had it’s way. It brings death, oppression, pain, depression, anguish... and on it goes.

God’s plan brings just the opposite. And in the not too distant future, I expect Him to return and erase much of this old world. Then we will start over without sin.

IMO, that’s the only way good conquers all on this planet.

If left to our own designs, the lights go out as the U. S. is over-run by the hoards. Defeated from within in from out side, the U. S. will have been a grand idea that ultimately failed.

Then who champions sanity on this planet? As a functioning nation, no one.


55 posted on 06/13/2014 10:49:57 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: ilovesarah2012

Agreed...


56 posted on 06/13/2014 10:50:36 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: DoughtyOne

Perhaps I should clarify a bit.

I am perfectly fine if/when the collapse hits because I too believe in God and his word. And I am fine with the people (to melodramatically use my favorite phrase) writhing in the filth of their own corruption because they asked for it. BEGGED for it.

As long as ‘enough’ of the truth of what happens remains that one guy in a mud hut in a dank forest knows why because he had stories passed down to him via sand drawings from the tribal elders when he was a kid I am good. Because all the libs will be gone and their legacy, even a fraction of it, survived them.

But all those people living in the police states cannot be completely purged of the knowledge of a time when things were not that way. There is no way it could happen. they cannot beat it out of people or kill them all to erase it. the killers themselves would have heard and as un PC as it is to say, their may have existed a sole guard in the Soviet gulags that slightly sympathised with his captives even a little bit. Not that it mattered a lot. As before, once again.

And so the truth will survive. And there is not a damn thing the libs can humanly do short of extinction to stop it.

How I wish things were to be different.


57 posted on 06/13/2014 11:23:21 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: Norm Lenhart
Perhaps I should clarify a bit.

I am perfectly fine if/when the collapse hits because I too believe in God and his word. And I am fine with the people (to melodramatically use my favorite phrase) writhing in the filth of their own corruption because they asked for it. BEGGED for it.


I am too, but with some reservations.  I look at California for instance.  It would be easy to think the state brought all it's problems on itself.  Sadly there are about 45% of Californians who believe pretty much as you and I do.  So do they deserve what's coming to them?  And if you think about it, do you or I really want to see the Left get the full weight of what they brought on themselves?  No, we really don't.  We want the ship of state righted.  You may not agree with me, but I think you would lean towards it.

As long as ‘enough’ of the truth of what happens remains that one guy in a mud hut in a dank forest knows why because he had stories passed down to him via sand drawings from the tribal elders when he was a kid I am good. Because all the libs will be gone and their legacy, even a fraction of it, survived them.

While I would be happy to know one person knew, an of course many others too, it would be more or less meaningless if a nation didn't rise up to harbor those views, and recognize the dignity of the people once again.

But all those people living in the police states cannot be completely purged of the knowledge of a time when things were not that way. There is no way it could happen. they cannot beat it out of people or kill them all to erase it. the killers themselves would have heard and as un PC as it is to say, their may have existed a sole guard in the Soviet gulags that slightly sympathised with his captives even a little bit. Not that it mattered a lot. As before, once again.

I guess so, but it's a hollow fact that some people know... when no government exists on the planet to respect that sort of governance.  If the U. S. fails, who steps in other than God to clean up the mess?  We wouldn't be there.  Europe wouldn't be there.  Poor Autralia might be the only nation left.  Alone and exposed, I doubt that would last for long either.

And so the truth will survive. And there is not a damn thing the libs can humanly do short of extinction to stop it.

Honestly, I don't rule out the Left wanting to use extinction.  Look at Germany in the WWII era.  That's what the Marxists/Socialists always revert to.  Russia, Germany, China, Cambodia...  every time...

How I wish things were to be different.


So do I.

Thanks for your comments.  I appreciate it.

58 posted on 06/13/2014 11:47:12 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: DoughtyOne

I agree there are good people in Cali. Mass too. And NY.

But they are what they are. Those are lib ruled sewers that at some point, we have to stand back and let destroy themselves without our cash funding it. There are not enough of us and fewer by the day to correct the problems there.

If you remove emotion and just look at the numbers they are a massive burden/net drain. And thats how they must be dealt with. They are bad from every angle. And worse, breeding grounds for more bad.

As Reagan said, and yes I know his ranch is there, “Let them go their own way”.


59 posted on 06/13/2014 11:55:01 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: Norm Lenhart

I understand the logic behind what you suggest. I would only say that at some point we become the original 13 colonies again. What does that gain us?

We either stand and fight, or we back ourselves into oblivion.

California is winnable again. No big money comes into the state to support sound policy.

The GOPe, the RNC all do their best to trash sound policy. If we get a good candidate in the state, they abandon them.

We will never be successful like that. You can see right now that the GOPe stands at the ready to betray us in every state. There’s nowhere to withdraw to that is safe.


60 posted on 06/13/2014 12:20:45 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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