“...if you insist on the use of tubes, IVs, and whatnot, you will make their passing torturous instead of peaceful like it should be.”
This is how you are obtuse. We are not talking about the final stages of death as you only seem to be able to think about.
We are also not talking about people who are cognizant and communicative and can make their own decisions to not eat or take nutrients.
Your posts on this thread are awful, and the insensitivity and ignorance you have displayed about the basic facts, impugning the worst of motives to those of us who disagree with your general opinion is depressing.
Your apparent determination to “one-up” those of us who have had to care for loved ones (spouses and parents) suffering in the last years and days of their lives is disrespectful at the very least.
Haw dare you imply that those of us who disagree with your opinion regarding the complex reality of the dying process are ignorant of the issues involved, embrace euthanasia, or starvation, etc.
Then, even more insulting to our individual intelligences, when confronted with facts and reality, you try to change the subject, trying to shift it to your preferred direction, in an effort to re-direct the discussion to one you think more winnable. Do you really think this is a good way to advance your cause, whatever it is?
This debate over the “right” methods to treat our loved ones who are suffering from fatal illnesses is horrible and disgusting. What kind of hubris gives you the notion that you are qualified or have any special expertise in this matter?
Please have the decency to stop trying to manipulate the argument into one which you appear to think you can win, for you can’t, and you won’t. You lost it, many posts back.
I now consider you in minimum regard, and anything I see posted under your name elsewhere will be tainted by your behavior on this thread.
My prayers now go to Our Father, that Casey Kasem gets kind, caring and loving treatment in these final days, that Hospice is called in to alleviate his suffering, and that his family stop fighting about it all.
Your posts on this thread are awful, and the insensitivity and ignorance you have displayed about the basic facts, impugning the worst of motives to those of us who disagree with your general opinion is depressing.
Your apparent determination to “one-up” those of us who have had to care for loved ones (spouses and parents) suffering in the last years and days of their lives is disrespectful at the very least.
Haw dare you imply that those of us who disagree with your opinion regarding the complex reality of the dying process are ignorant of the issues involved, embrace euthanasia, or starvation, etc.
Then, even more insulting to our individual intelligences, when confronted with facts and reality, you try to change the subject, trying to shift it to your preferred direction, in an effort to re-direct the discussion to one you think more winnable. Do you really think this is a good way to advance your cause, whatever it is?
This debate over the “right” methods to treat our loved ones who are suffering from fatal illnesses is horrible and disgusting. What kind of hubris gives you the notion that you are qualified or have any special expertise in this matter?
Please have the decency to stop trying to manipulate the argument into one which you appear to think you can win, for you can’t, and you won’t. You lost it, many posts back.
I now consider you in minimum regard, and anything I see posted under your name elsewhere will be tainted by your behavior on this thread.
My prayers now go to Our Father, that Casey Kasem gets kind, caring and loving treatment in these final days, that Hospice is called in to alleviate his suffering, and that his family stop fighting about it all.
The description of Casey Kasem is consistent with him being in an end stage of life. This is clearly not the same situation as existed with, for example, Terri Schindler, who was healthy and could have lived a long healthy life until her husband-in-name-only got a judge to agree to let him starve her to death. Out of respect for Terri, I refuse to call her by her murderer’s name.
Seriously, in life and death situations, you have to look at the facts of each situation as being relevant to that situation and no other.
A person does not have to be in a coma for everything to start shutting down. I think death is probably more peaceful if they do become comatose, but that does not always happen. From the descriptions, Mr. Kasem is in the end stages of dying.