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To: Winniesboy

>>>voluntary union of two independent nations

Uh, I have always been taught that some clan lords were bribed off with land and the rest slaughtered at Colloden. Sort of an ethnic/cultural cleansing ala Ireland and Cromwell. Help me understand if was misinformed about how it came together. I know my ancestors were “cleared” and forced to Canada, those that survived.


23 posted on 06/09/2014 1:23:26 PM PDT by epluribus_2 (he had the best mom - ever.)
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To: epluribus_2; the scotsman
Uh, I have always been taught that some clan lords were bribed off with land and the rest slaughtered at Colloden. Sort of an ethnic/cultural cleansing ala Ireland and Cromwell. Help me understand if was misinformed about how it came together. I know my ancestors were “cleared” and forced to Canada, those that survived.

Culloden wasn't simply English slaughtering Scots: there were as many Scots fighting for the Hanoverian side as for the Jacobite side. Again, Scottish landlords were responsible for many of the worst excesses of the clearances. I'm pinging the scotsman, who has often posted on this subject, as he can give you a much more authoritative explanation than me!

26 posted on 06/10/2014 4:06:54 AM PDT by Winniesboy
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To: epluribus_2

The Jacobite uprising wasn’t about Scottish nationalism, it was about putting the deposed Stuart Dynasty (of both England and Scotland) back on the throne. There were English Jacobites as well.


27 posted on 06/17/2014 4:05:02 AM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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