Posted on 06/06/2014 6:39:56 AM PDT by robowombat
Same here, if they cave we will be out of the SBC so fast their heads will spin. We have no interest in betraying our convictions and God’s teachings to be politically correct and popular with society.
The coliseums and lions will return for Christians before this madness is over even in the USA. The leftist heathens will demand obedience or blood.
If you undergo a Salvation experience but then become an atheist, the experience does not trump the fact that you are an atheist at time of death. Claiming the experience wasn’t real because the person later became an atheist is a self-fulfilling prophesy and therefore irrelevant as an argument. Baptist love to tell people they are going to Heaven.
There are way too many people going to Hell because someone declared them to be Saved based on a prayer and a bunch of water. There is too much hallelujah and not enough fear and trembling.
You might find this book interesting:
“Life in the Son”
“Dr. Robert Shank here offers a penetrating study of all the pertinent New Testament Scriptures on the doctrine of perseverance. In doing so, he calls into question the popular doctrine of “eternal [unconditional] security.”Are the proof passages used to support eternal security possibly misconstrued? Dr. Shank convincingly argues that the question confronting us is not, Is the believer secure? but rather, What does it mean to be a believer? If apostasy is an actual peril for every Christian, the Scriptural warning passages must be frankly accepted rather than interpreted into irrelevance or circumvented by theological hypothesis.”
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1556610912/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Thanks for the recommendation!
A lot of old testament prophets fell away and displeased God after they had fulfilled their roles.
Only the Holy Spirit can tell someone that they are saved.
I knew a girl in college. She was a Baptist, active in all the youth groups. The she became a Jehovah’s Witness. In less than a year she switched to Mormonism. Astounding really because the JWs really hate Mormonism.
Then she switched to some Far East Sect, Hari Krisna maybe. The point is, she never believed in any of those.
I long ago lost track of her. But when I think of her I make a prayer that she finds her way to Christ. You would do me a favor if you said a prayer for her too.
Correct and the Book of Hebrews talks frequently about the perils of leaving the faith. You cannot be plucked from His hand but you can sure jump out.
“If I were the devil” ~ A prophetic essay written and recorded by radio commentator Paul Harvey in 1965.
Southern Baptists are the most conservative voting group in America, at about 80% republican, and second only to the Catholic denomination in size, they won’t be joining the liberal voting church denominations anytime soon.
One defective congregation out of thousands is not going to make the SBC change it’s ideals.
It’s astounding.
And I’ll add now: chilling.
Right you are and this is just a mild taste of what is coming. The explosion of biogenetics, robotics and computer ‘printing’ manufacture will within a pretty short time (less than 100 years) almost change what the concept of a person and personhood is. If artificial intelligence can have the ability to understand moral and ethical choices does that mean some robotic devices have souls? Not SF and not being facetious. These sorts of questions along with those of the ‘creation’ of new artificial organisms and ‘manufacturing’ what are now considered to be persons all loom in the not distant future. If the gay lifestyle represents a sort of existential crisis for religious people what will these things mean?
I attend, but am not a member, an SBC church that is also affiliated with the CBF - don't know how that happens.
The CBF (Continuing Baptist Fellowship) was created in 1991; it separated from the SBC over, among other things, the SBC’s refusal to ordain women. In OCT 2000 Jimmy Carter publicized his decision to leave the SBC and join the CBF.
I have read other Freepers who are members of the SBC write that the leadership in Nashville is curetnly trending to the left. The biggest example of this is its embracement of illegal alien amnesty. The previous president of the Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission, Richard Land (~67), was essentially forced into retirment in 2013 after he embarrassed the SBC leadership with his comments regarding the Trayvon Martin case - he defended George Zimmerman. The new president of the ERLC, Russell Moore, is ~42. The jury is still out on him. Many think he is not willing to stand up to the popular culture of homosexual acceptance.
I have read several blogs by Albert Mohler over the last 2.5 years. I like what he writes.
Or not.
I know where this Southern Baptist stands - and if my leadership stands differently I will be moving on.
“Very pragmatic.”
That’s good,I hope?
I can’t see SBC doing this
It will split the church definitely.
We can go back to Church of Christ but with instruments...suits me
The title is misleading
Congregation that faltered is not SBC
THE author thinks we will hold to doctrine.
The title sounds like were iffy.
We are not.
““Very pragmatic.” “That’s good,I hope?”
Well, hard to say. Guess, what will be will be. As others much wiser than me have stated; “change is the only constant”. And, this axiom has been true with Christianity as well as so many other institutions.
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