[DiogenesLamp]

So your answer is more shootings and more control.

Your fix is worse then the disease.

Are you trying to be obtuse? Are you deliberately trying to misstate my position? If you aren't going to be intellectually honest, i'm not even going to bother attempting to discuss this with you.

The answer is no, that's not my position, and it is a strawman tactic for you to attempt to articulate it as my position.

[DiogenesLamp]

I have to go now, I have responsibilities to which I must see. I'll come back at some other time to deal with all the flaming I expect to get from the "toking is freedom" crowd.

I can only appeal to reason amongst people who are willing to be intellectually honest. If someone wants to disregard past history and chase a Unicorn fart utopia, then there is no point in trying to dissuade them with facts. They will believe what they wish to believe.

Yes, our system is rife with abuses, and not just regarding drug issues. A Whole host of governmental agencies are out of control and intent on pushing their will on the people of this nation. Even the mindset of these officials is out of whack. Totalitarianism and criminality is gaining a foothold in the thinking of many governmental officials nowadays.

[driftdiver]

Well pick a position then. You’re confusing