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To: RWGinger

RE: So you don’t think this jerk saying he is renouncing citizenship even though he didn’t take the legal steps isn’t a game changer on the whole lie that the POS 9dumbo did it because we leave no American behind?

It is of course, a game changer, especially if the letter can be produced.

I am just arguing that he still IS an American LEGALLY even when he makes that statement.


71 posted on 06/03/2014 10:29:02 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
71

Yeah, it seems you're right.

http://travel.state.gov/content/travel/english/legal-considerations/us-citizenship-laws-policies/renunciation-of-citizenship.html

A person wishing to renounce his or her U.S. citizenship must voluntarily and with intent to relinquish U.S. citizenship:

appear in person before a U.S. consular or diplomatic officer,
in a foreign country (normally at a U.S. Embassy or Consulate); and
sign an oath of renunciation

Renunciations that do not meet the conditions described above have no legal effect. Because of the provisions of Section 349(a)(5), U.S. citizens cannot effectively renounce their citizenship by mail, through an agent, or while in the United States. In fact, U.S. courts have held certain attempts to renounce U.S. citizenship to be ineffective on a variety of grounds, as discussed below.

And interestingly-

Persons who wish to renounce U.S. citizenship should be aware of the fact that renunciation of U.S. citizenship may have no effect whatsoever on his or her U.S. tax or military service obligations (contact the Internal Revenue Service or U.S. Selective Service for more information). In addition, the act of renouncing U.S. citizenship does not allow persons to avoid possible prosecution for crimes which they may have committed in the United States, or escape the repayment of financial obligations previously incurred in the United States or incurred as United States citizens abroad.

95 posted on 06/03/2014 10:40:42 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: SeekAndFind

ah got ya

and as such he can be court martialed.

Ok makes sense


147 posted on 06/03/2014 11:22:20 AM PDT by RWGinger
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