You waste time arguing with people who have been brainwashed by Communist professors and the state-run media. Life is too short to waste on fools.
I don’t argue with them. I simply ask them questions that they can’t answer, questions like “Can you give me an example of where a monopoly has provided better service at lower cost than a fully competitive health care market?” Or, “Can you name a single country that has a higher opinion of the United States today than they did six years ago?” When faced with questions like that, liberals discover that they don’t know jack. I then follow it with something like, “Since it is clear you weren’t able to think up these opinions all on your own, where did you really get them from?”
Well they have to learn the hard way.
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All agreed except also the failure to fight liberals has led to more people believing in something which is really quite despicable. There has to be an effort to win people back over.
Simple example, more people actually believing it’s OK to do nothing and live off others, rather than realizing that is shameful.
I have several lib/leftist acquaintances. Their thinking is SO warped that you cannot have an intelligent, rational, reasonable discussion/conversation with them on anything but the most mundane, nonpolitical topics. Even the weather is off limits because they’ll turn it into a tirade about “climate change”. I quit trying to influence their thinking a long time ago after learning this the hard way. The only thing I will do is stand up for what I believe if they get personal and attack, which they often do since they can’t seem to see there are two sides/differing opinions. There is no “live and let live” - if you don’t embrace their views, you’re racist, bigoted, intolerant, and whatever other terms they want to call you; however, they are perfectly oblivious to the fact that this very intolerance and refusal to acknowledge basic freedoms and liberty (especially religious) is bigoted, ignorant ... whatever.
I learned my lesson long ago with Liberals.
So now, I just treat them the way I would a child, a drunk or a mentally challenged person.
They will never recognize logic... and politics aside, how do you communicate with a person who doesn’t recognize logic?
I can be pretty persuasive in prose form. but face to face argument with a leftist or anyone else for that matter can be daunting....
as a wag once said, “I don’t argue too well, extemporaneously, off the top of my head” oh wait that wag was me.
so when the leftist at the cocktail party(or kegger or labor day bbq) tells me something, oh, let say. “Handguns, shouldn’t be legal as they could never make a dent in a standing army”...my sluggish gray cells begin to remember that one uses a handgun to get to a rifle. It recalls the story of the ‘liberator’ .45ACP single shot pistol dropped to the partisans in parts of Europe during WWII, so that Mr or Mrs partisan goes up to a german sentry with an offer of a cigarette and asks for a light and while Fritz is fumbling for his Ronson(or Krupp clone of same)the patriot launches a single smooth bore projectile through the brain of the Hun and takes his MP-38 and magazine belt for future fun and frolic......
then I stop daydreaming and Mr. Ponytail has left and starts his argument with the next person at the party....
so knowing that time keeps slipping slipping,into the future, sometimes I just argue something like “ Oh YEAH...well F*** you, that’s what...”
“Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig.”
Mark Twain
Arguing with a liberal is like wrestling a pig. You’ll both get dirty and the pig loves it.
Too many cowardly conservatives are that way because they've been convinced by pop culture and the Leftist news media that they're the minority. They never hear anyone arguing the positions they agree with, so they stay silent. I've actually had bystanders approach me after a public argument and say they agreed 100%, but they never heard anyone else say what I'd said.
When you're arguing in public, you're on stage...make it your best performance ever. True, you'll never sway a Leftist, but you may encourage an audience member to nut up and come forward.
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Sometimes you can spur the thought processes by one upping them. They want a minimum wage of $20/hour, say you can’t live on that, it has to be $50/hour.
They want single payer health care, you agree and say that the government should provide a car and a 3 BR home to everyone as well.
They want to ban fossil fuels, you agree and counter that the government should ban automobiles and make everyone move to a city where they can walk or bike.
Sometimes a real crazy person will agree with you, but usually they will say that’s going to far. Then you say, how far is too far and who’s to decide that?
I agree - never accept their premises (which are always wrong) and go on the offensive. Treat them with the disdain they deserve.
I don’t agree entirely. An awful lot of conservatives started out as liberals. They must have changed their minds at some point.
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It’s usually about as productive as explaining baseball to a cat.
But know this people. It takes training and temperament to "debate" with a liberal. You have to realize going in that while you have facts and reason on your side, they have emotion, their positions are built on faith (not grounded by facts/reality), and they have no limits - you will be insulted. Don't take it personally, it is not you, it is them.
The second half of this is that we have an absolute responsibility to raise our children not only with traditional values but also understanding why those values are superior to liberalism. Each of my kids can articulate why socialism is bad, why following the Bible is good, and (as absurd as it may seem to even think this needs justification, it does) why individual freedom is good. Liberals kill their own children, and they will die out if we deny them successful access to our kids.