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Conservative Senator Kicks Tea Party to the Curb
thedailybeast.com ^ | 5/31/14 | David Freedlander

Posted on 06/01/2014 5:32:19 AM PDT by cotton1706

At the Republican Leadership Conference in New Orleans this week, Wisconsin Senator Ron Johnson tried to distance himself from the Tea Party groups that helped elect him in 2010.

If Ron Johnson was running any faster from the Tea Party he'd leave skid marks.

Back in 2010, the Wisconsin senator was one of the Tea Party’s first candidates. His upset victory over incumbent Democrat Russ Feingold in that deep purple swing state was seen as proof that a new brand of conservatism was on the march.

But Johnson, a businessman and political novice when he was first elected, told reporters at a gathering of grassroots conservatives activists in New Orleans this week that it may be time for that march to slow down.

“I think the conservative movement may just be maturing a little bit. You can be very doctrinaire, you can demand purity, but in the end if you want to advance policy that you want enacted you have to win elections,” Johnson said when asked about a recent spate of Tea Party losses around the country.

The Wisconsin Republican blamed national and local Tea Party groups for holding the GOP hostage. “My guess is that the Tea Party groups have always been separate from the Tea Party movement.”

Johnson burst onto the national scene after given a number of fiery speeches at Tea Party rallies before he was even a candidate, and told a reporter that he “did kind of spring out of the Tea Party.”

At the Republican Leadership Conference however, Johnson downplayed his involvement with the movement, saying, “I gave a speech at a few Tea Parties. I never joined a group.”

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: 2014midterms; elections; teaparty; wi2014
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To: All; holdonnow; Jim Robinson
Mark Levin has already outted Johnson anyway during their epic encounter from last October...

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61 posted on 06/01/2014 7:47:23 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Norm Lenhart
All us labeled purists are well and good with the traditional 80% and all the big issues.

I agree the 80% is a good marker. I consider that basic conservatism.

My concern is the 100%'ers. When you get to that level we do not all agree on what the final 5 or 10 percent should be and it all falls apart.

62 posted on 06/01/2014 8:01:02 AM PDT by oldbrowser (The only way to defeat this country is to turn us against each other.)
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To: Pontiac
What we have to do is work very hard to change the Republican Party to our liking.

Now how, pray tell, can we do that when the GOP-E is working in overdrive to rig the primary system and stack the state-level organizations against Conservatives??? Do I need to re-post all the articles about how that is happening across the board, especially in Virginia?

And remember what happened at the GOP convention in Tampa, when the GOP-E leaders threw out some of the Conservatives delegates, took others on "scenic view" bus rides while critical votes were taken, and changed the rules on who gets to vote on the presidential nominee in 2016?

63 posted on 06/01/2014 8:01:09 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Will88
He seems to be insulting one group of voters to curry favor with another group.

Exactly, and he's also contributing to the GOP-E/Rat/media meme that the TEA party is over.

64 posted on 06/01/2014 8:10:56 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: oldbrowser
When you get to that level we do not all agree on what the final 5 or 10 percent should be and it all falls apart.

Problem is that the "final 5 or 10 percent" invariably involves abortion, LGBT agenda acceptance, and higher taxes to grow the government more.

No thanks!

65 posted on 06/01/2014 8:23:11 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Norm Lenhart

You nailed it!


66 posted on 06/01/2014 8:28:18 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: BobL
Naa...we take him out, in the Primary, in 2 years.

Can't do that when the GOP-E is rigging the primary system against Conservatives.

67 posted on 06/01/2014 8:31:44 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Pontiac
No. It's up to the republican party to make the republican party conservative, if they want to survive. If they don't get conservative, if they continue to run pro-abortion, pro-amnesty, gun-grabber candidates, they will get destroyed.

I'm not a republican. I'm a conservative.

/johnny

68 posted on 06/01/2014 8:34:42 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: cotton1706
I'm going to take some heat, but I agree with Johnson's comments here although not the headline.

Some tea party groups are good and some are jokes. There's a problem with a lot of new "tea party" groups with "leaders" that care more about being the man-in-charge instead of advancing effective conservative candidates.

ANYBODY can call themselves tea party. Anyone can claim to be 'leadership' of tea party. Those 'leaders' all have agendas. Many of the national tea party groups also spend most of their money on consultants instead of helping candidates get election. They make a lot of noise in emails asking me for money, but don't do what is necessary to win.

69 posted on 06/01/2014 8:38:07 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (Abortion - legalized murder for convenience)
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To: Will88
Why did he have a need to disparage Tea Party organizations

Because the leadership of these organizations, in particular national tea party organizations, are counterproductive to the movement and to conservatism in general.

70 posted on 06/01/2014 8:43:52 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (Abortion - legalized murder for convenience)
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To: iontheball
What a way to put down the people who put him in office.

Tea party PEOPLE helped put him into office. National Tea Party leadership did not.

71 posted on 06/01/2014 8:44:46 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (Abortion - legalized murder for convenience)
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To: cotton1706
Johnson, a RINO in conservative clothing, "tickled their ears with words they wanted to hear," so without searching longer to find out what made the man, they got what they desired - someone willing to say whatever, just to get onto the gravy train. Now he's a wholly owned whore of the "middle" Establishment seeking to stay his six years before he qualifies for a lifetime of retirement, healthcare you and I can't have and lots of other perks!

Word to the wise, just because some "TEA Party" folk like him/here, just because some conservative hacks and pundits promote him/her, just because you get daily "push" emails telling you that you "really need to get behind X", you just might be buying something worse than you already have!!!

"Act in haste, repent in leisure!"

72 posted on 06/01/2014 8:47:34 AM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: Timber Rattler
Do I need to re-post all the articles about how that is happening across the board, especially in Virginia?

Links would be fine

If they cheat make it known far and wide.

If it isn't close they can't cheat.

We need to overcome them by numbers and enthusiasm.

We can’t afford to stand outside pointing and shouting. The stakes are too high.

73 posted on 06/01/2014 8:50:20 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: oldbrowser

But here’s the thing. The 100%ers are all but a figment of the GOP sycophant imagination that they use for a talking point/wedge issue. I am considered by some here to be a rabid purist, yet I go by the prior comment every election. Most of us do. The barest handful are 100% types. they don’t constitute any vote to speak of.

But the sycophants use what few their are to blow the issue out of proportion, create dissent and get their RINO elected every time.


74 posted on 06/01/2014 9:01:40 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: Darren McCarty
Because the leadership of these organizations, in particular national tea party organizations, are counterproductive to the movement and to conservatism in general.

Does he ever get around to specifying just what he is talking about? It's easy to throw around insults and hint at conspiracies when no detail at all is provided.

From what I've learned of his remarks so far, I'd say the senator was being "bombastic" and raising the spector of "conspiracies" in a fairly irresponsible manner. He needs to be specific about what he means.

75 posted on 06/01/2014 9:15:23 AM PDT by Will88
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To: Norm Lenhart
Any candidate can have my vote if he is pro-life, pro-2nd amendment, against amnesty, against socialized medicine, and for a smaller government.

That's all it takes.

To some here on FR, that counts as being a purist.

Of course, all of those things are or were republican party platform planks.

/johnny

76 posted on 06/01/2014 9:32:12 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Timber Rattler

I don’t see how you call that damning…..some TP groups are awful…..some focus on issues that were never part of the original TP movement. But go ahead, do enjoy your self flagellation and paranoia.

None of which, by the way, changes the fact that Johnson is the best elected official from Wisconsin in our lifetimes — along with Walker. Neither are exactly Ted Cruz. Texas isn’t exactly Wisconsin.


77 posted on 06/01/2014 9:46:42 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Do NOT suffer fools gladlyÂ…and message boards are full contact arenas)
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To: Pontiac; All
We need to overcome them by numbers and enthusiasm.

Those things are sorely lacking right now. Here are your links:

(Floor fight: Grass-roots activists battle attempt to rig RNC delegate rules

(NOTE There was a live thread here on FR when all of that was going down, with posts running into the hundreds.)

Tampa GOP Elitist Coup to Change Rules - Banish Grassroots?

Romney's "RNC Power Grab": What Really Happened

Romney’s Palin Problem: Where’s Her Convention Invite? (Advisor: she will be prohibited to speak)

RNC Bus Driver “Gets Lost”, Forcing Virginia Delegates Opposed to Rules Change to Miss Crucial Vote

Cuccinelli Campaign Says National GOP Abandoned Them: 'We Were on Our Own'

VA GOP Lt. Gov. Bill Bolling Undermined Cuccinelli Campaign

GOP strategist Boyd Marcus’s move to McAuliffe campaign seen as sign of party rift

John Boehner’s friends plot tea party crackdown

Huelskamp Details GOP Retaliation Against Tea Party

Eric Cantor’s Top Aide: I’ll ‘Bankrupt’ Virginia GOP, Install Allies, Rebuild It With Cantor’s Donor Cash

Wall Street Republicans' dark secret: Hillary Clinton 2016

Eric Cantor confronts Republican infighting

The GOP Establishment Turns a ‘Firehose’ on Virginia Tea Partiers

Virginia Republicans Organizing to Blunt Tea Party Power

I've got a lot more from where these came from. So if you want to continue beating your head against a wall in trying to change the GOP-E from "within," then bang away.

78 posted on 06/01/2014 9:53:40 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: cotton1706

It definitely sounds like he has chug-a-lugged the Koolaid.


79 posted on 06/01/2014 9:54:42 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: cotton1706

Flash!

Ron Johnson discovers bread does not butter itself.


80 posted on 06/01/2014 9:55:49 AM PDT by itsahoot (Voting for a Progressive RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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