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So let's look at California as a microcosm, and just think of what will happen if the 'National Popular Vote aka- Ignore the Electoral College' initiative takes off in a land ruled by leftists...
1 posted on 05/28/2014 3:24:13 PM PDT by bamahead
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"We are very libertarian in view, and we believe that people would have freedom to make their own choices as long as they don't impose on other people's rights," she said.



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2 posted on 05/28/2014 3:24:47 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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Can’t say I blame them. I know several people from Northern California and they are surprisingly sane. I’d gladly trade them for Austin, which would fit right in with Southern California.


3 posted on 05/28/2014 3:32:07 PM PDT by I cannot think of a name
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...an advisory measure that asks each county's board of supervisors to join a wider effort to form a 51st state named Jefferson.

Ok by me.

Upstate South Carolina, Northern Georgia, Eastern Tennessee and Western North Carolina already have dibs on the State of Franklin.
4 posted on 05/28/2014 3:35:02 PM PDT by Resettozero
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Not only is their ZERO chance of that it’s just stupid. ALL this has done is ensure that every LibTard here will vote. They know they are going to win anyway so some would sit it out. But this ensures they won’t.

And on the merits, it’s moronic.


5 posted on 05/28/2014 3:36:29 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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It’s a great plan as long as the State of Jefferson produces two Republican US Senators and several GOP members of Congress.

If so, conservative areas of other Democratic states should be allowed to become their own state.

It would at the very least help the GOP win presidential elections.


6 posted on 05/28/2014 3:40:39 PM PDT by Oliviaforever
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I just had to post more. Time wasted on stuff like this just upsets me. SO SO SO much about which we can focus our energies. SO many great Conservative ideas.

Why don’t we just Balkanize the entire U.S.? How about the State of Austin? It certainly makes complete sense to split my old state of VA into 3. I bet we could split the U.S. into 300 states or more just based on the fact that “we don’t believe what you do”.

While we waste time with conspiracy theories and this kind of lunacy the Republic crumbles.


7 posted on 05/28/2014 3:40:50 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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Or just blow Hollywood, San Francisco, and parts of Los Angeles to hell and save the whole state. Hey awolf will bite off its own leg to save itself...


15 posted on 05/28/2014 4:00:11 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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We were just up in Mt. Shasta City this weekend. Very beautiful. We saw some State of Jefferson t-shirts, some State of Jefferson books in the bookstore....and a whole bunch of hippies running around.

I think Shasta has a reputation for New Age stuff so it's probably not representative of the actual population in a possible State of Jefferson.

18 posted on 05/28/2014 4:10:38 PM PDT by bubbacluck (America 180)
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The last time those counties seriously tried this, the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor, and it all became just a memory.


21 posted on 05/28/2014 4:33:50 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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They should make the capital the city of Thomas.


22 posted on 05/28/2014 4:49:37 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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Article IV US Constitution:

“Section 3. New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new States shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.”

The California House and Senate and the US House and Senate would all have to agree to the formation of a new State from within the borders of California.


23 posted on 05/28/2014 4:59:23 PM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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Stupid


24 posted on 05/28/2014 5:09:06 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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Why don’t we just give California to Mexico as California del Norte? Doing so would solve a host of problems for us and for Mexico.


25 posted on 05/28/2014 5:16:44 PM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel (Have a wonderful day!)
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please form a new COUNTRY and leave real Americans alone.


28 posted on 05/28/2014 5:39:56 PM PDT by kingattax (America needs more real Americans.)
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To: bamahead

Califorina will be unlikely to permit this, althou we should support it.

Its not in our interest to have 1 state dominate the west coast.


31 posted on 05/28/2014 5:58:40 PM PDT by Monorprise
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Residents of California's largely rural, agrarian and politically conservative far northern counties. . . Bigfootia?
33 posted on 05/28/2014 6:14:39 PM PDT by Oratam
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Chances of statehood happening are nil Still, I think they have a right to their own governance if they so choose. So here’s an idea that hasn’t been floated; skip becoming a new state, because it isn’t going to happen. They might seek to become an organized, incorporated US territory instead. We don’t have any since Alaska and Hawaii became states. Doing so would sidestep the question of picking up two senators which is going to be an insurmountable feat anyway.

Interesting trivia point is that our unincorporated, organized territories such as Guam and USVI pay income taxes, but they go to the territory in question, not the Federal government.


37 posted on 05/28/2014 7:15:00 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Relocate and Dominate: freestateproject.org)
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