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To: BenLurkin

I believe most states already have something similar to Fla’s Baker Act law on the books. It allows for people to be institutionalized against their will if they seem to be a threat to themselves or other people. His parents should have institutionalized him using California’s 5150 statute. I don’t understand why they didn’t. If a person is a threat to himself or others, he can be taken out of the population legally. That they didn’t do it, shows his parents were in denial. So now everyone wants to make a new law because they didn’t use the law on the books when they had the chance.


21 posted on 05/28/2014 12:05:48 PM PDT by Waryone
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To: Waryone
His parents should have institutionalized him using California’s 5150 statute.

That provides a three day hold for an evaluation. At the end of that time he is free to leave if they cannot clearly identify a problem. He was evidently together enough to be able to hide his wackiness from others when he wanted to do so.

35 posted on 05/28/2014 12:31:08 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: Waryone

His parents didn’t do anything because they were enablers.

They bought him $60,000 cars and paid his rent. They coddled him when he didn’t want to go to school. Every job was beneath him, because he was superior to everyone else. He believed that women should just throw themselves at him because he was so wonderful, and no one ever disavowed him of this idea. As far as I can tell, he never even spoke to a woman, he just expected them to approach him and give themselves to him. This was a guy who thought he was so smart that he should rule the world.

And when none of that happened he made a plan and killed a bunch of people.

His parents weren’t going to have him committed. He was a special little snowflake, and he could do no wrong. I’m sure his parents blame the evil women who ignored him and the NRA for letting those evil guns shoot those “not-so innocent” girls....


38 posted on 05/28/2014 12:34:52 PM PDT by Velvet_Jones
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To: Waryone

from what I have read he never met the standard of being a “threat to himself or others” to the point of being involuntary committed. Certain key phrases must be used and confirmed

Even if he had confessed to being suicidal or having murderous delusions it might have earned him 3 days of inpatient observation (cash upfront please)

but this kid knew the standard and was adept at hiding his inner urges and agenda, appearing pleasant and polite and cooperative when the police came knocking

That he snookered so many therapists over so many years is less palatable and I believe there was medical malpractice there


50 posted on 05/28/2014 3:00:39 PM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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