This.
Posted on 05/27/2014 5:32:13 PM PDT by Sam Troy
The easiest prediction of the 2016 primaries is that Republicans will have a profound change of heart on who is and isn’t “natural born” once more of them become better acquainted with the circumstances of Ted Cruz’s birth.
For now, though: Disqualified.
Fifty-two percent overall and 53 percent of Republicans think you’re not “natural born” if you were born abroad to an American-citizen mother — and yet, when asked point-blank whether Cruz is eligible to be president, 55 percent of Republicans say yes versus just nine percent who say no. When asked the same question of Obama, the split is 31/55 even though the Birther scenario in which O was secretly born in Kenya would put him in precisely the same situation as Cruz (born abroad, citizen mother, non-citizen father). Does that mean the GOP electorate’s destined to turn on Cruz once more of them discover where he was born, fearing that his immigrant parentage and Canadian birth have left his loyalty to the U.S. hopelessly compromised? Er, no. A reversal on this subject is far more likely. After all, you can define “natural born” various ways — by place of birth, parents’ citizenship, or some combo thereof. For example:
(Excerpt) Read more at hotair.com ...
Roger that. I’ll whack it from my ‘collection’.
Here’s the Statute: Title 8’ Section 1401 of the U.S. Code of Laws:
The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:
(g) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than five years, at least two of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years...
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1401
Glad to help!
She doesn't have any beasts.
“So a child born to a military family outside the US but in a US military hospital is not a natural born citizen”
If that’s true, it needs to be fixed. A constitutional amendment would be best.
It's been painfully instructive to watch the great American experiment be dismantled in this way, definition by definition, but perhaps the cycle is finally reaching its low and soon we can begin to reassemble again with a newly reacquired understanding.
Otherwise, Reagan's warning about that generational window freedom and liberty have is proving to be true and we've just about lost it.
Free Republic is not the reason a poll of this nature is meaningless.
The reason is found in this false and misleading statement … After all, you can define “natural born” various ways — by place of birth, parents’ citizenship, or some combo thereof,
No, you can’t.
After reading several of the responses, I can see that most who respond have confused legitimate citizenship with natural born. A candidate can be a citizen and not be a natural born citizen.
The natural born constitutional requirement is limited to candidates for president. No other elected office carries that condition.
Article 2, Section 1
No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
Natural born refers to the candidate’s parents, not the candidate. Both of the candidates’ parents must be American citizens to meet the condition of natural born. The founders’ reason for a natural born president was to eliminate any possibility of a shared allegiance with the nation of one of his parent’s birth.
No amendment to the Constitution has revised that condition. Neither Obama or Cruz are natural born citizens.
Yes and No.
No if only one parent was born in America.
The child is a citizen but not a natural born citizen.
Yes if both parents were born in America.
The child is a natural born citizen regardless of the location of birth.
The office of president is the only elected office that requires a natural born citizen. Members of Congress do not need to be natural born citizens.
The founders’ had good reason to require a natural born president. Today, that reason may not be as severe as when the founders envisioned its need. An amendment may be in order but only after considerable discussion, the founders were very wise in all they wrote.
If that’s true, it needs to be fixed. A constitutional amendment would be best.
It's not broken. It doesn't need to be fixed.
Suppose McCain had won.
What happens politically if there is a crisis in his native Panama?
Anything he says or does, or fails to say or do will be criticized based on the perception that his judgment with regards to his place of birth is colored by his personal connection and bias towards or against it.
Unless a foreign born president is a democrat, he will never escape the whisper campaign about how he is unduly influenced by un-American connections.
Worse, our enemies know this and would foment trouble in Panama just to distract and sow dissent in the enemy camp.
A foreign born citizen can be anything else, a senator, a top general, a supreme court justice, a captain of industry, is it really essential that they be the president?
Is having that one singular job worth risking the entire country's security?
Two politicians and two US citizen mothers.
Two politicians and two foreign fathers.
One politician claims to be half black.
One politician half latino.
The half black wasn’t vetted and got a free eligibility pass by the voters, Congress and SCOTUS.
The half latino won’t.
This.
Guess who sat in on that committee that declared McCain “eligible”? Drum roll, please..... Obama, Hillary and McCaskill who has tried to strike down the two parent US citizenship requirement time and time again. In committee, it was agreed the two parent US citizenship meant natural born toward eligibility but they decided McCain (aka McPimp - We don’t have to be afraid of Obama) was eligible through his father’s military status despite not being born on the US military base. There was no maternity hospital on US shores (the base) so he was born on Panamaian soil in a Comal hospital. Obama and Hillary both signed off on that two US parent meaning in committee and a second time when it, SR-511, went to the conveniently excerpted form in the Senate. Bottom line, neither candidate was eligible and it was all an intentional set up to trash the US Constitution.
Now, anyone wanna bet why hussein wasn’t vetted? Huh? What, no takers?
Why do I have more than a sneaking suspicion that ypu are “Cold Case Posse Supporter” revisited?
The argument that Congress made, was that McCain was born on a US military base (but evidence shows he was not), and that the base was US territory, so he was not born in a foriegn country. So, they concluded he was still born on US territory, or as Vattel would say, ‘in the country’. Therefore he was a NBC.
When Congress concluded that McCain was a NBC, they did so by backing the ‘parent citizens’ + ‘in the country’ = NBC, definition by Vattel.
“Whereas previous presidential candidates were born outside of the United States of America and were understood to be eligible to be President; and”...
A smokescreen for zer0, as it turned out.
Yep.
Polling on such a topic is meaningless, what percentage of those people do you think know anything about it, or even how many congressmen there are, look at how mistaken you are, and you read about it.
As your two term president finishes his time in office, it would be great if he gets replaced by American Ted Cruz.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3160774/posts?page=31#31
See above post by null and void.
Null and void, many thanks for that post!
All y’all ping to null and void’s post #31.
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