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Fighting in Ukraine Escalates as Militia Groups Flock to Donetsk
vice.com ^ | May 27, 2014 | Harriet Salem

Posted on 05/27/2014 4:44:13 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

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1 posted on 05/27/2014 4:44:13 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

As long as the Russian invaders and their supporters take a much deserved dirt nap...


2 posted on 05/27/2014 4:50:25 PM PDT by Clemenza (Lurking)
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But remember, the Ukrainians fighting for their country are the anti-Semites - not these Muslim terrorists hired by Putin.

Right, FR Putinolators?

3 posted on 05/27/2014 4:52:31 PM PDT by wideawake
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Dude, it’s like you’re making the KGB out to be bad guys or something.


4 posted on 05/27/2014 4:53:49 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Why do Chechens fight for Russia?


5 posted on 05/27/2014 4:53:54 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: wideawake

They’ve gotten quiet now that the Ukrainians are stacking up Russian national terrorists like cordwood at the morgue.


6 posted on 05/27/2014 4:56:43 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: 2banana

My question too. Why would Chechens fight for Russia. Must be for hire.


7 posted on 05/27/2014 5:13:36 PM PDT by samtheman
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Why do Chechens fight for Russia?

Chechnya has a pro-Russian government and anti-Russian rebels fighting against it. Right Sector Ukrainians have been fighting on the rebel side in Chechnya for years (right alongside Al Qaeda), so my guess is these 'wild brigade' Chechens are pro-Russian and looking for some payback.

8 posted on 05/27/2014 5:31:15 PM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: samtheman

Winner, winner! chicken dinner!


9 posted on 05/27/2014 5:32:08 PM PDT by meatloaf (Impeach Obama. That's my New Year's resolution.)
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To: 2banana
Why did ex-Wehrmacht Germans fight for the French Foreign Legion in Algeria and Vietnam?

Cash money and an official pardon.

10 posted on 05/27/2014 6:17:46 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: mac_truck

Nice fictional story about Ukrainians and Al-Qaeda.


11 posted on 05/27/2014 6:19:23 PM PDT by wideawake
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~Nice fictional story about Ukrainians and Al-Qaeda.~

What makes it fictional?


12 posted on 05/27/2014 6:30:27 PM PDT by wetphoenix
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Your inability to verify it renders it fictional.


13 posted on 05/27/2014 6:39:42 PM PDT by wideawake
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You don’t need too much cognitive skills to find connections between Ukrainian ‘right-wing’ groups and Chechen insurgency.
It is not like all the Ukraine is guilty because of that, but it’s a fact.


14 posted on 05/27/2014 6:46:03 PM PDT by wetphoenix
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To: wetphoenix
Except, of course, that there are no connections.

Every "news item" that makes this connection ultimately links back to claims made in Russia Today, the propaganda arm of the Putin regime.

15 posted on 05/27/2014 6:52:35 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: wetphoenix
You don’t need too much cognitive skills to find connections between Ukrainian ‘right-wing’ groups and Chechen insurgency.

That is correct.

The Gruppenführer of Right Sector, Dymtri Yarosh, stated in an interview he gave late last year that his organization had sent fighters to Chechnya and that he himself had fought against Russians there.

Sashko Muzychko was another Right Sector trizub who bragged about killing Russians in Chechnya, and I'm sure there are others.

16 posted on 05/27/2014 7:21:58 PM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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All of these "facts" are courtesy of Russian state organs.

Yarosh has denied any connection with Chechnyan rebels, even though given the heat of the moment in Ukraine, he could be expected to boast of any exploits in fighting Russians if he had them.

17 posted on 05/27/2014 7:31:09 PM PDT by wideawake
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“my guess is these ‘wild brigade’ Chechens are pro-Russian and looking for some payback.”

You are most likely correct...
The now-dead Sashko Bily/Oleksandr Muzychko, a Right-Sector Leader at the Maidan protests, and definitely involved in the violence, was wanted internationally for the torture murders of some 20+ captured Russian POWS in a Chechnyan jail.

This was a BIG issue to the Russians after the coup, and was likely the reason why Avakov had him killed.

OOPS... I mean, per Avakov, he shot himself... TWICE... while fleeing police outside of a nightclub.


18 posted on 05/27/2014 7:38:12 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: wideawake

Your inability to use Google must be a real burden:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/03/27/who-killed-one-of-the-most-notorious-right-sector-leaders-in-ukraine.html


19 posted on 05/27/2014 7:41:40 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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Right Sector most certainly DID fight against the Russians in Chechnya:

“During the first Chechnya war in 1994, Muzychko commanded a UPSD “Viking” squad and fought the Russians alongside Chechen field commander Shamil Basayev, the leader of the radical wing of the insurgency.

In Ukraine it has been reported that the president of the rebel Chechen republic, Dzhokhar Dudayev, decorated Muzychko with the order “Hero of the Nation” and named a street after him.

Moscow authorities claimed that Muzychko killed at least 20 Russian soldiers in the Chechen war and brought a criminal case against him for that.”


20 posted on 05/27/2014 7:44:31 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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