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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

The press should NAME that useless psychiatrist, who had been treating the young man for quite some time.

That clueless shrink should lose his license FOREVER.


2 posted on 05/26/2014 11:48:49 AM PDT by miserare (2014--The Year We Fight Back!)
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To: miserare

son’s therapist received the ranting manifesto and went D’oh who can I Blame


3 posted on 05/26/2014 11:51:15 AM PDT by molson209 (Blank)
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To: miserare
"That clueless shrink should lose his license FOREVER."

Why would you wish such a thing?

4 posted on 05/26/2014 11:51:22 AM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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Sometimes a person is beyond help of anyone. this young man no doubt had an extreme disorder, the people to look at are the parents.


5 posted on 05/26/2014 11:52:23 AM PDT by stockpirate (Only a tidal wave of tyrants blood will return our tree of liberty......)
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To: miserare

I’m pretty sure he mentioned both therapists he was taken to as an adult: one he only went to once and refused medication from, the other I believe he continued to see, along with supervised, hired therapist-friends.

Both were shrinks who appear as experts on tv. (It’s in his manifesto.)

But I’d have thought the shrink would have been obligated to report him to the authorities, and any delay there would have been problematic.

Also, I guess they must have been in family therapy, or else going to the mother would have been an invasion of the client’s privacy as well, no?


6 posted on 05/26/2014 11:54:58 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: miserare
The press should NAME that useless psychiatrist...

The boy did. He said the psychiatrist's name is Charles Sophy. The psychologist's name is Randy Gold. Apparently they did notify authorities, although it isn't clear just what that consisted of. You can bet their attorneys have them gagged at the moment.

16 posted on 05/26/2014 12:03:55 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: miserare
The psychiatrist has a duty, under CA law, to report to authorities once a patient makes a specific threat to him/herself or others. See Vladimir Tarasoff, et al., Plaintiffs-Petitioners v. Regents of the University of California, et al., Defendants-Respondents. (I link to the Wikipedia entry, because it does a fair job of covering the high level facts.)

The parents may have indeed undertaken a frantic effort in the hours before the rampage. But their responsibility goes back much further. Families in which this kind of mental illness is present typically engage in long periods of denial during which nothing effective gets done. That's when others get hurt.

I started to form a picture of the family environment when I saw the 22 year old student had a $65K BMW. There was, I'm certain, active disassociation from his problems, in part by sending him a check. To the extent that the family provided him a healthy allowance, they should be worried about the extension of responsibility (a la the Laurie Dann case.) I'm not saying there is clear responsibility, just that you can bet someone among the victims families is going to sue. And if his disclosures to the therapist were specific as to likely individual targets, the therapist should expect to be sued as well.

19 posted on 05/26/2014 12:13:37 PM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: miserare
The press should NAME that useless psychiatrist, who had been treating the young man for quite some time.

The story speaks of a therapist. How do you know it wasn't a psychologist or a grief counselor?

How do you know the kid wasn't good at hiding his true feelings?

The way I see it, unless you want a police state enforcing thought control, the cops are here to pick up the pieces after the crime. We are left with chance that we will not be victims. We are left to our own wits to skirt and defend against danger where we perceive it. It's a better choice than the rising notion of enforcing behavior as chosen by the criminal elite.

21 posted on 05/26/2014 12:14:41 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: miserare

I read the 140 page manifesto, the killer had numerous psychiatrists, some lasted only one session.


55 posted on 05/26/2014 6:24:45 PM PDT by LowOiL ("Abomination" sure sounds like "ObamaNation" to me.)
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