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To: Cen-Tejas
it’s FATHERLESS black males that is the problem, not guns

Sorry, but that's just not the problem.

Let us assume all the baby-daddies stayed around. Men who abandon their children to the ghetto are more or less by definition irresponsible, and a very high percentage of them are thugs.

Does having Daddy, who's a thug, around magically produce a generation of responsible young black men? I rather doubt it.

IOW, this idea confuses cause and effect. Black boys grow up without responsible fathers because their baby-daddies are irresponsible thugs.

26 posted on 05/26/2014 8:39:25 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan
IOW, this idea confuses cause and effect. Black boys grow up without responsible fathers because their baby-daddies are irresponsible thugs.

And the women get pregnant by thugs, because thugs are more sexy than guys who work as WalMart managers.

This is not anything new -- lots of women have always been attracted to "bad boy" types. In the past, though, a women had no choice but to marry a guy with a good enough job to support a family, instead of the bad boy. What's new is that the government enables them to screw the bad boys and still survive on a government stipend.

We will have this dysfunction for as long as government enables it.

29 posted on 05/26/2014 8:48:25 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Sherman Logan

I appreciate your valid comments but I think they fall a little short.

My suggestion about vasectomies, if implemented, would nullify your point would it not because there would, over time and thanks to modern birth control, be fewer and fewer unwanted black babies around because all the black males in town were shooting blanks............. ergo the concept of a “thuggish” black male hanging around his kid (and I totally agree with you on that) is now invalid because the “thuggish” kid is not a dad because he had a vasectomy 15-25 years earlier.

I may have been unclear on one major ingredient here and that is TIME. If vasectomies started being implemented tomorrow on newborn black babies it would take around 15 years or so to start seeing results. But, it is a START towards a solution to crime in the inner cities that WILL reduce unwed mothers, fatherless kids, and uncared for kids.

Now, my suggestion is, admittedly, no panacea because it takes TIME. But, it is undeniable that IN TIME it would work and thousands of unwanted, uncared for babies committing crime would simply vanish from the inner city. Vasectomies aren’t free either but I bet the taxpayer could be talked into paying for them in lieu of the reward.


33 posted on 05/27/2014 7:24:48 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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