Posted on 05/25/2014 10:20:42 AM PDT by bestintxas
In an emotional statement, the father of a victim of the mass murder in Isla Vista on Friday night addressed reporters Saturday and warned families that it can happen to them too. "Our family has a message for every parent out there: You don’t think it’ll happen to your child until it does.”
According to the Los Angeles Times, Richard Martinez, the father of Chris Martinez, who was killed in the premeditated attack near the campus of UC Santa Barbara, spoke for 45 minutes, extolled the virtues of his son, and expressed his disdain for the National Rifle Association for refusing to back greater gun control legislation. “Chris was a really great kid,” Martinez lamented. “Ask anyone who knew him. His death has left our family lost and broken.”
Martinez, in an emotional plea, asked, “Why did Chris die? Chris died because of craven, irresponsible politicians and the NRA… When will enough people say, 'Stop this madness.' We do not have to live like this. Too many people have died. We should say to ourselves, 'not one more.'"
One student, 19-year-old Lyssa Hopper, was shopping at the IV Deli Market in the 6500 block of Pardell Road on Friday night when she heard a series of gunshots and a crashing
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When is someone going to bring up the racial hatred that drove this?
This mixed race killer’s hatred was focused on not just white women, but “blond” white women.
His obsession and hatred was of the most fair of white women, of Northern Europe ancestry, it was them that he wanted to kill during his spree.
From the message the kid left, sounds like he was a closet homo that hated women.
We don’t have a gun problem in this country. We have a brain problem. And it is going to get worse.
After reading just some of this killer’s autobiography, only up to age 12, I am starting to believe that we need to STOP MAINSTREAMING kids with asperger’s or highly functioning autism.
And I have a son with it, same age as this guy. His childhood parallels my son’s except: I DIDNT FORCE HIM INTO SCHOOL. By 4th grade he was homeschooled all the way through. You will not see my son in the news for killing people.
First, the similarities: the frustrations that caused tantrums in this guy were like the same ones that did it for mine: things not going the way he thought they would, even small things. Very hard for step parents to understand, but moms make it a little easier, maximizing what they do like and eliminating or minimizing what they don’t. The same joys in athletic pursuits when they CAN keep up, and in Pokemon and video games, where there are not subtle cues to try to understand, just straight forward logic. Kids on the spectrum excel at these and engender admiration from the other kids.
The difference: when he started to come to the age of logic, he saw himself as FAILING. He looked around him with that Aspie logic, saw that he was unable to be popular like the other boys (probably far less of those than he realized even were), and tried his hardest to copy them. But nothing he tried worked. He was missing all social skills, and sadly, he was the only one who couldn’t see or sense this. My son was not in a world where he had to see himself measured against “peers” who are really not peers at all. Inside, the world is very different for neurotypicals.
Yet his parents, out of both ignorance of and disinterest in autism, kept shoving their little square peg boy into the round holes of school, public and private.
About a tenth of the male population at his age and younger is on the autism spectrum. Most are shoved into public schools and may well feel similar to him. The bullying and even just social ignoring they are receiving could lead these guys to logically click off as this one and the Sandy hook guy did. People with autism can click off their emotions easier than the rest of us, especially when young.
These kids need to be schooled with others with social deficits. Not the criminal guys on their way to Juvie, just other kids with spectrum or learning disorders who have trouble socially. This way, they can have friends and more understanding between them. Maybe even gender separation after fifth grade as well as intense coaching on social cues, and learning what the non-spectrum people can “sense” and how to make up for that lack.
I see hope if we as a nation can actually do concrete things to help our young boys with autism understand reality. This boy did not. My heart aches for the misunderstood, mocked boy he once was, just like my son. But when I saw that my son’s description of his third grade “friends” didn’t match up with the sheer avoidance of him I saw in the school, I took him OUT OF SCHOOL. And it was a religious private school, too. Children are children. No one helped this boy early on. No one realized this was going to be a powderkeg situation.
NOW WE KNOW. Kids with autism need to be in separate schools or classes, where they can honestly be taught about their differences, encouraged to have play dates with like mindeds, and believed in. THOSE WHO WERE MURDERED IN SANTA BARBARA WOULD BE ALIVE TODAY if this killer had been treated appropriately. He didn’t understand why he couldn’t have friends or girlfriends. He could have learned this at 12 instead of turning against the whole world.
One of these days, politicians will have the guts to actually ban murder!
Oh, right, already done. Well, restrictive gun laws! Oh, right, California already has some of the most restrictive in the nation. Bans against knives! Err, right, Santa Barbara already has some of the most restrictive knife laws in the nation, in a state with pretty restrictive knife laws.
The insane murderer demonstrated he didn’t need guns to kill; he could just as easily used his car to mow down even more pedestrians rather than just those on bicycle. It is an insane murderer. It appears the only laws that really need to be examined is how we handle the insane. But that’s really tricky, so let’s simply blame the NRA!
Did the father of this murderer ever share script info on the ‘Hunger Games’ with his son, or run things past him regularly for the “youth perspective”? By his own words, the kid was also influenced by violent video games and that genre.
As a parent, I couldn’t fathom the loss of a child, much less in this manner… But what does it say of someone’s values when the first instinct is to lash out at political opponents & spout talking points ingrained into them? I hope to G-d that I never have to find out my own reaction in such circumstances.
Loathing attitude towards women (Islam) , stepmother Moroccan (Islam), and birth mother Malaysian (Islam) ...could there be a connection?
Just sayin?
The dad needs to shut his mouth in deference to the parents of kids his kid murdered. Because this isn’t on Asberger’s or guns or Hollywood. It’s on him.
This dad utterly abandoned his son.
I read what they’re calling the kid’s “manifesto.” It’s actually an autobiography.
He had a happy childhood with birthday parties, travel, and an intact family.
When his parents divorced, his world collapsed. There are no happy memories recounted after that (except going to the premiere of the fourth “Star Wars” movie.)
His father remarried. The kid didn’t get along with his stepmother, and he was banished from his father’s house. Not just abandoned — rejected.
So he was raised by his mom and World of Warcraft, which he played to the exclusion of everything else.
He agonized about always being the shortest, slightest boy in his class. So where was his dad to teach him other ways to be a man besides being six foot two, which wasn’t possible for this kid? How about, take him to church? Or teach him to tear down a transmission?
My guess is the kid couldn’t even change a tire on the Beemer his identity was so wrapped up in. Thanks, Dad!
Again, this terrible crime has nothing to do with Asberger’s, or Hollywood, or guns. It’s about a father abandoning his boy.
Fathers abandoning their boys to be raised by women and videogames are destroying America.
Sorry, posted the above on the wrong thread. It was intended for the thread about the kid’s father.
Because he does not want to admit to any responsibility for not doing something about his crazy son, because this is California and the lawyers for the victims families will see him as the only guy around with any sort of deep pockets.
His father taking an interest could have made a big difference. As I noted on another thread on this, the kid was living in LA and was the son of a Hollywood director. He should have had aspiring starlets lining up to go out with him. Yeah, the girls would have been using him to get introduced to the dad, but the kid would have gotten some attention. The dad could have worked with him on social skills. The dad could have asked one of the "cool" actors to do him the favor of showing the kid around and show him how to be cool.
Sure, the lunatic who did the deed isn’t being blamed.
From Sandy Hook?!?!? Hadn’t kept up with this story enough to know this. Lots of actors involved in the Sandy Hook incident (more than one coincidentally getting face time there and at the Boston Marathon, hmmm). Add the Aspergers, video games, raised by single mom and rejected by father. Could be a copy cat killing spree.
Guns do not kill people, nut jobs who are criminals kill people.
His misogyny certainly was the most evident of his issues...
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