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To: cynwoody

Babydoll, you have to do research, but common sense should tell you that no country would ever convey citizenship because someone stepped illegally into their country and dropped a kid. This is just one of many laws and statutes that have intentionally misapplied to weaken our nation. If every other country in the world no alien can walk in and birth a citizen. Why would you assume that we did? “Subject to jurisdiction” and similar phrases are ubiquitous in the rest of world and are steadily held to mean within the social contract. This is contract law. Citizenship is a social contract. All contracts must have a meeting of the minds. All citizens are subjects and within the jurisdiction of the national social contract. Why don’t you read the notes of the people who WROTE THE LAW?


74 posted on 05/27/2014 3:03:41 AM PDT by HMS Surprise (Chris Christie can STILL go straight to hell.)
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To: HMS Surprise

A little knowledge is a dangerous thing. ALL lawyers have a little knowledge. See above.


75 posted on 05/27/2014 3:05:49 AM PDT by HMS Surprise (Chris Christie can STILL go straight to hell.)
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To: HMS Surprise
Babydoll, you have to do research, but common sense should tell you that no country would ever convey citizenship because someone stepped illegally into their country and dropped a kid.

I did a little research and came up with at least 33 who do: Link

76 posted on 05/27/2014 3:48:31 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: HMS Surprise
If every other country in the world no alien can walk in and birth a citizen.

False! From the Wikipedia:

In general, everyone born in Canada from 1947 or later acquires Canadian citizenship at birth. In one 2008 case, a girl born to a Ugandan mother aboard a Northwest Airlines flight from Amsterdam to Boston was deemed a Canadian citizen for customs' purposes because she was born over Canada's airspace.[7]

The only exceptions concern children born to diplomats, where additional requirements apply.

Section 3(2) of the current act states that Canadian citizenship is not granted to a child born in Canada if either parent was a diplomatic or consular officer or other representative at the time of birth and neither parent was a Canadian citizen or Canadian permanent resident.

Note that Canada shares an exception for diplomats and even goes so far as to spell out exactly what it means.

Why would you assume that we did?

Because it says so in the Constitution.

All citizens are subjects and within the jurisdiction of the national social contract.

Bafflegab! I'm too lazy to look it up, but I seem to recall that the "social contract" was the invention of a croaking, pre-Marx commie.

It has little to do with jurisdiction, which is a government's official power to make legal decisions and judgements. E.g., that double parking is not allowed.

80 posted on 05/27/2014 10:35:29 AM PDT by cynwoody
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