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The Most Frugal President over the Past 50 Years Is…Obama?!?
Townhall.com ^ | May 23, 2014 | Daniel J. Mitchell

Posted on 05/23/2014 5:25:27 PM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Kaslin

“Primary Spending Minus Defense and Bailouts”

That’s a lot like measuring inflation minus Energy and Food. If you don’t like a constituent component, just throw it out until you get to an answer you like.


21 posted on 05/23/2014 6:06:11 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: LegendHasIt

I’ve seen lot’s of people with great figures who ended up lying.


22 posted on 05/23/2014 6:06:18 PM PDT by shineon
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To: dontreadthis

Just redefine the meaning of spending and the answer is simple.


23 posted on 05/23/2014 6:07:00 PM PDT by glyptol
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To: Kaslin


24 posted on 05/23/2014 6:09:41 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Forgive but don't forget)
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To: fhayek

” The fact that you can make a case for him being a fiscal conservative speaks ill of statisticians.”

i was taught in stasticts that it was a course in how to make figures lie.

If you really want to tell a big lie, use a graph!!


25 posted on 05/23/2014 6:09:57 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: darkwing104

BS x 17 trillion


26 posted on 05/23/2014 6:10:10 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Kaslin

The only thing The Won is frugal with is the truth.


27 posted on 05/23/2014 6:12:31 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Kaslin
Some truth. You don't have to adjust for inflation, TARP or anything else. The data is the data and it does not show Obama as limiting government one damn bit.


28 posted on 05/23/2014 6:28:28 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Kaslin

Trashing the value of the dollar helps him greatly in this statistical fantasy.


29 posted on 05/23/2014 6:44:47 PM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: Kaslin

This kind of article drives me MAD. Here we have a fully competent conservative commentator playing cute with the numbers just to help Obama. Here is the ugly reality that Mitchell for whatever reason refuses to put on the table:

1. Yes, TARP is the only reason that obama begins with any hope of being a limited spender. But Mitchell leaves out a bunch of important factors that go along with this spending:

a. TARP was a TEMPORARY spending measure. It was a banking emergency. The Senate [held by Democrats Mr. Mitchell] refused to pass a budget bill for over 3 YEARS! That institutionalized the temporary spending as a permanent budget addition.

b. Bush required that TARP be paid back with interest to the Treasury. That actually did happen within about one year of December 2008. But Obama took that money and added it to his budgets as if that somehow was his doing. That is completely ridiculous! For Mitchell to not note this is a complete scam.

2. Spending in all of these administrations is highly correlated with party control of Congress. Guess what Mr. Mitchell? When Republicans control the Congress spending is reduced. Many FReepers will try to challenge this but you are just wrong. The biggest reductions in spending happened in the late 1990s after the Gingrich revolution [house flipped Republican] and the Senate followed in the late 1990s into Republican hands. That actually lead to big surpluses for the first time in decades. If you study Republican senate control of spending you find that this is a powerful correlation for the last three decades:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2014/01/what_republican_senate_control_means_for_america.html

Here again, for Mitchell to play coy on this as if the President controls the budget process is flagrant deceit.

3. All of this kind of deceit to make Demcoratic presidents like Obama look like Budget geniuses destroys public understanding of constitutional politics that lodges spending as a Congressional responsibility. It also feeds a lunacy on the right that falsely believes Republicans are no different than Democrats— an utterly false belief. Using the Presidents as misrepresenting icons of the parties, commentators deceive the public and make the deficit appear to be impossible to contain. Nothing could be further from the truth. If the US economy grew at 4%— which is completely reasonable in a world that stops hating free markets— the deficits would be history.

Mitchell needs to stop with his blind deceit. He buries the lead about the Tea Party that train wrecked Obama into the sequester. Why not pull out the proposed budgets of Obama that got no votes Mr. Mitchell? Do those budgets that he designed show your results? No!

I am still angry.


30 posted on 05/23/2014 7:16:59 PM PDT by lonestar67 (I remember when unemployment was 4.7 percent / Cruz 2016)
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To: usconservative

And he did that in just a few years


31 posted on 05/23/2014 7:46:15 PM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin

Liars figure and figures lie


32 posted on 05/23/2014 8:20:01 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Kaslin
OK.

Obama ranks best in “Total Spending” and “Primary Spending.”

But, somehow, even though the Great Recession ended four months after he took office, even though we have historically low interest rates, the economy has had only modest growth, and Obama has racked up record deficits for four out of five years.

I don't understand how that happened.

33 posted on 05/23/2014 10:27:26 PM PDT by zeestephen
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Just saw your post after commenting on the same fact.

The Great Recession ended in June, 2009.

Obama, according to the author, has held spending to 0% or below.

But, Obama racked up record deficits four years in a row.

I don't get it, either.

34 posted on 05/23/2014 10:32:09 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: kingattax
budget ? what budget ?

Exactly the right question — how long was it the Government was operating without a budget?

35 posted on 05/23/2014 10:42:29 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Kaslin

0% yeah right, the baseline budget was increased 31% within 2 months of inauguration and has been run by continuing resolution ever since. People wonder where the administration gets the money to spend, the 31% turned into a slush fund. Largest increase ever, largest deficits in history, highest ratio of taxation to GDP.


36 posted on 05/24/2014 5:13:18 AM PDT by VTenigma (The Democratic party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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To: VTenigma

And it was increased by the demonrats, as they were in charge in both houses


37 posted on 05/24/2014 5:33:37 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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But I don’t care who gets credit. I’m just happy that spending didn’t grow as fast.

Don't worry. If a Republican wins the White House and the GOP controls the House and Senate then you'll see spending go through the roof.

38 posted on 05/24/2014 6:05:24 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Kaslin

Frugal with his own damn money.


39 posted on 05/24/2014 6:47:36 AM PDT by Old Yeller (Anything is possible, if you don't know what you're talking about.)
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To: Kaslin

Sooooooo- What category contains the “Vacations” that MOOOOOCHELLE & Barry have gone on?

WHAT BUDGETS?

A ‘continuing resolution’ is NOT a budget!!!


40 posted on 05/24/2014 8:21:41 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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